going to the dark side?...STi
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Originally Posted by jining
Anyways, my roomate has a 2004 STI (java black) with 60k miles, i think he wants to sell it. Its stock and he doesnt drive it like it should be driven :P (what a noob). Hes upside down in a loan on it, i think he owes 23k. If your interested let me know. Its worth maybe 21?
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Originally Posted by drivesolo
Interesting.....
The A4 would be used to keep Mrs. First350 happy and then you can go for something like a Miata and build a dedicated track vehicle? In GRM mag a killer Miata can be purchased and built for less than what it would cost for boosting a Z. Seems like short of an Exige and/or SRT-10 Viper a worked Miata (Uber-Miata) tends to be the next fastest car in WWSCC (going off of last years stats).
I haven't looked into the Spec Miata series, but is that what you're thinking of for your wheel-to-wheel flavor?
The A4 would be used to keep Mrs. First350 happy and then you can go for something like a Miata and build a dedicated track vehicle? In GRM mag a killer Miata can be purchased and built for less than what it would cost for boosting a Z. Seems like short of an Exige and/or SRT-10 Viper a worked Miata (Uber-Miata) tends to be the next fastest car in WWSCC (going off of last years stats).
I haven't looked into the Spec Miata series, but is that what you're thinking of for your wheel-to-wheel flavor?
Originally Posted by first350
the miata idea keeps coming back...I could autoX it and slowly mod it for Spec miata seires...
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Originally Posted by drivesolo
Been thinking about it a little it and the I'm starting to like the idea more. Heck, if I had another bay in the garage right now, I might even consider doing it myself.
this might be big enough for you...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12234
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Originally Posted by drivesolo
^ You HAVE to do this! C'mon, I've got a pick and shovel let's get started this weekend.
I just traded the Z in for a new VW r32. Not as fast as an EVO or STi, but its more refined and the build quality is excellent. It's pretty quick too, over a second faster on the Top Gear track than a stock Z. Plus the AWD is nice. To sum it up....the Z is sweet, but an AWD rocket is a good idea, good luck!!!
STi/Evo really makes alot of sense for your situation. Actually for mine too, so I could have just one car to pull double duty and replace the SUV/sports car combo. For me, I just can't bring myself to be associated with that image, though..
Originally Posted by skoobywrx
Garage, did someone say garage?
this might be big enough for you...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12234
this might be big enough for you...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12234
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
... and the exteriors are ugly too. Even with a wing delete...
honestly i do regret giving up the G35 sometimes for my evo. Although once i hit the gas all of those regrets get get whiplash and are hurled into the backseat
subie ftw jus remove the wing get cobb accessport new exhaust an a biger turbo it would be a beast recomennd the hks gt series juss might be doing the same i i miss subies and i need 4 seats plus im seeing to many z's around
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the sti is pretty nice, it has a rolling switch to change the vechile from awd to rwd plus the cars already setup to hall A$$, dont forget it already has an ic spary button located in good reach.
Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
STi/Evo really makes alot of sense for your situation. Actually for mine too, so I could have just one car to pull double duty and replace the SUV/sports car combo. For me, I just can't bring myself to be associated with that image, though..
You ppl want a great sports car...Get a Hyundai!!! Besides the money will help feed my ppl.
In all seriousness, you may want to look into a bmw 335. Those cars are dynoing at 320+ whp and more so on the torque (I was at their last dyno day couple of weeks ago). Adding a piggy back for a few hundred is pretty much all you need. I've raced my friend and he pulled away with two other ppl in his car and it's a 4 door. I have considered this myself. The white coupe with red interior.
In all seriousness, you may want to look into a bmw 335. Those cars are dynoing at 320+ whp and more so on the torque (I was at their last dyno day couple of weeks ago). Adding a piggy back for a few hundred is pretty much all you need. I've raced my friend and he pulled away with two other ppl in his car and it's a 4 door. I have considered this myself. The white coupe with red interior.
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First 350, the STI is a great choice of car. You won't be dissapointed in it (but you will miss the Z). What year are you looking at?
Neither the Evo or STI suffer from torque steer. They push in the corners (I think that's what people are confusing torque steer with).
The Evo has a much better powerplant in the 4G63 than the STI has. This has been proven numorous times. It's also quicker/faster stock vs. stock.
I think Robi does suspension mods for Subys now too. I know he's hooking Z's up.
Some dealerships are garbage, that's the damn truth. Others are cool (all really depends on if you're in good with the SM... I've had a warranty job done no questions asked).
It's the same thing with Subaru though... I remember when they were giving out free one year SCCA memberships with the purchase of an STI... but if you EVER activated the membership they'd axe your warranty on the spot. Shitty deals.
If you worked at Subaru you should know better than to say that. Just the crappy glass tranny in the WRX is reason enough to chose the STI.
STI > WRX.
Not true at all. The VQ needs to be built to handle that much, while a 4G63t can take ~550awhp/awtq on stock internals. All that takes is a 35R and supporting mods.
Originally Posted by warmmilk
if i was in ur place (perfect attendence autox and occasional road racing) i'd go for the evo cause it doesn't suffer from torque steer as much as the sti does. then there is also the fact that robispec makes some killer suspension parts for the evo, including those which get rid of torque steer completely if properly set up. then there is also the fact that the evo is slightly lighter:
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...00336&v=t99064
concave:
the sti is no better under the hood than the evo, stock for stock the evo is slightly faster, mod for mod, the difference is negligible, if not slightly in favor of the evo
http://autos.msn.com/research/compar...00336&v=t99064
concave:
the sti is no better under the hood than the evo, stock for stock the evo is slightly faster, mod for mod, the difference is negligible, if not slightly in favor of the evo
The Evo has a much better powerplant in the 4G63 than the STI has. This has been proven numorous times. It's also quicker/faster stock vs. stock.
I think Robi does suspension mods for Subys now too. I know he's hooking Z's up.
Originally Posted by first350
I've heard horror stories w/ Evo mechanical issues and dealerships/Mits not providing warranty work (or at least fighting it)...and if they find out that you "race" it, your warranty gets voided.
It's the same thing with Subaru though... I remember when they were giving out free one year SCCA memberships with the purchase of an STI... but if you EVER activated the membership they'd axe your warranty on the spot. Shitty deals.
Originally Posted by HaulinZ
the sti is a nice car... i used to work at subaru... and if i had an opinion i would throw it at getting a regular wrx... yes it is sacraficing a few nicer options but... money wise whith the $$ you save you could invest and blow the doorss off an sti... that being said
STI > WRX.
Originally Posted by jining
... but I think for power levels >5-600 the vq motor actually will end up being easier/cheaper to do.
Originally Posted by Cw-350
the sti is pretty nice, it has a rolling switch to change the vechile from awd to rwd plus the cars already setup to hall A$$, dont forget it already has an ic spary button located in good reach.
