taillight black outs.... and cops
5mph over the speed limit, regardless of whether or not it's an old lady or an 18 year old kid, is still speeding, and is still a crime, just as drunk driving, using drugs, tail gating, talking on the phone, and "other street crimes" are. Old ladies are not a protected class that can violate the law just because they're old ladies.
As for the blue LED plate frame, regardless of the fact that it's a "bone stock Lexus", is not OEM equipment (unless I missed a press release somewhere
), and I don't know the law regarding that.
As for the blue LED plate frame, regardless of the fact that it's a "bone stock Lexus", is not OEM equipment (unless I missed a press release somewhere
), and I don't know the law regarding that.
unless Asen meant the little light that shines on the license plate to illuminate it at night time so it is visible for others to see. Numerous vehicles have lights back there with a hint of blue.
I think that i stand corrected here. I belief it is the same as the one Drew describes above. It's a blueish sorta resembling LED lights
I don't see how pulling someone over with tinted taillights involves safety.
In this case, the officer clearly did not understand the statute and just wasted the OP's time. Most officers won't even bother writing fix-it tickets unless the driver is a *****.
In this case, the officer clearly did not understand the statute and just wasted the OP's time. Most officers won't even bother writing fix-it tickets unless the driver is a *****.
If you can't see the tail lights from a safe distance, that's a safety issue. Unless you're omniscient.
Whether the officer understood the statute or not can't be determined from this incident. Either he did, and made a mistake in judging the distance, or didn't, and cited OP for just having tinted tails.
Either way, the LEO made a mistake in the statute number he referenced on the ticket, which means OP is clear, and that's really what we're trying to determine here.
Whether the officer understood the statute or not can't be determined from this incident. Either he did, and made a mistake in judging the distance, or didn't, and cited OP for just having tinted tails.
Either way, the LEO made a mistake in the statute number he referenced on the ticket, which means OP is clear, and that's really what we're trying to determine here.
You know, I love how every single thread involving cops immediately devolves into the LEO doing something purely predicated on that fact that he or she is a ********, assh0le, *****, bit[h, douchebag, or whatever random name gets thrown. Even the OP, WHO GOT THE TICKET didn't do that.
Do YOU never make mistakes? There's a reason that the law is written the way it is, and a reason that there are individuals whose career is predicated on enforcing it. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, he was doing his job and made a mistake?
When you go to bed tonight, take a minute to think about the fact that you can sleep easy knowing that you are protected by the men and women in law enforcement and the armed forces who are willing to compromise their own safety and are prepared to visit violence upon those who may wish you harm, and that you will be tended to by the individuals in public safety if something were to happen to you.
Do YOU never make mistakes? There's a reason that the law is written the way it is, and a reason that there are individuals whose career is predicated on enforcing it. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, he was doing his job and made a mistake?
When you go to bed tonight, take a minute to think about the fact that you can sleep easy knowing that you are protected by the men and women in law enforcement and the armed forces who are willing to compromise their own safety and are prepared to visit violence upon those who may wish you harm, and that you will be tended to by the individuals in public safety if something were to happen to you.
THE reason I can sleep good tonight is because there is a 10mm with 5 BLACK talons in the clip strapped to the side of my bed not even a bullet proof vest will stop these [pre ban bullets]. Not because some cop is waiting to come to the rescue . If that was the fact it takes them over 20 min to get here. If I did need them which I don't and never have. JUST FYI I have never had a ticket of any form not even a parking ticket and I have been driving for 37 yrs.
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THE reason I can sleep good tonight is because there is a 10mm with 5 BLACK talons in the clip strapped to the side of my bed not even a bullet proof vest will stop these [pre ban bullets]. Not because some cop is waiting to come to the rescue . If that was the fact it takes them over 20 min to get here. If I did need them which I don't and never have. JUST FYI I have never had a ticket of any form not even a parking ticket and I have been driving for 37 yrs.
Since this thread's already derailed, it's now vigilante fact checking time!
Black Talon ammunition has never, and will never possess armor piercing capabilities. It was designed from day one to expand upon the mushrooming expansion principle of hollow point bullets. They also had absolutely no involvement with the federal assault weapons ban of 1994, so your "pre ban bullets" comment makes absolutely no sense either. The six paragraphs on Wikipedia know more about the ammunition in your gun than you do. Look it up yourself (please), because if you think you're going to shred through the vests of the LEO's bursting into your bedroom (only likely scenario in which you'd need AP rounds), you'll be so very, very sadly mistaken.
Black Talon ammunition has never, and will never possess armor piercing capabilities. It was designed from day one to expand upon the mushrooming expansion principle of hollow point bullets. They also had absolutely no involvement with the federal assault weapons ban of 1994, so your "pre ban bullets" comment makes absolutely no sense either. The six paragraphs on Wikipedia know more about the ammunition in your gun than you do. Look it up yourself (please), because if you think you're going to shred through the vests of the LEO's bursting into your bedroom (only likely scenario in which you'd need AP rounds), you'll be so very, very sadly mistaken.
Since this thread's already derailed, it's now vigilante fact checking time!
Black Talon ammunition has never, and will never possess armor piercing capabilities. It was designed from day one to expand upon the mushrooming expansion principle of hollow point bullets. They also had absolutely no involvement with the federal assault weapons ban of 1994, so your "pre ban bullets" comment makes absolutely no sense either. The six paragraphs on Wikipedia know more about the ammunition in your gun than you do. Look it up yourself (please), because if you think you're going to shred through the vests of the LEO's bursting into your bedroom (only likely scenario in which you'd need AP rounds), you'll be so very, very sadly mistaken.
Black Talon ammunition has never, and will never possess armor piercing capabilities. It was designed from day one to expand upon the mushrooming expansion principle of hollow point bullets. They also had absolutely no involvement with the federal assault weapons ban of 1994, so your "pre ban bullets" comment makes absolutely no sense either. The six paragraphs on Wikipedia know more about the ammunition in your gun than you do. Look it up yourself (please), because if you think you're going to shred through the vests of the LEO's bursting into your bedroom (only likely scenario in which you'd need AP rounds), you'll be so very, very sadly mistaken.
sounds to me like SDBarker is a cop.
While i don't disagree that people on this forum take any chance they can to bash police (rightly or not)...I don't agree with his supposition that the cops are only out to do their jobs, which is to keep people safe. Yes, they have the judicial right to write the tickets for ANY infraction commited...however, I think we can all agree that nailing people for going 5 over really wasn't protecting anyone. Instances like that DO smack of meeting quotas.
Are all cops on a power trip and abuse their power? Obviously not. Do some of them...oh yeah.
Just like you (assuming you are a cop) get tired of people talking bad about your profession, We the citizens get tired of cops being blatant hypocrites about the laws and hiding behind the badge. Two sides of the fence I guess...depends on which side you're watching from.
OP...sorry to hear you got busted for the tint. Sucks...but it's a risk we take, right? Hopefully the information you've dug up thus far helps you fight the ticket and keep your tint!! Good Luck!!
While i don't disagree that people on this forum take any chance they can to bash police (rightly or not)...I don't agree with his supposition that the cops are only out to do their jobs, which is to keep people safe. Yes, they have the judicial right to write the tickets for ANY infraction commited...however, I think we can all agree that nailing people for going 5 over really wasn't protecting anyone. Instances like that DO smack of meeting quotas.
Are all cops on a power trip and abuse their power? Obviously not. Do some of them...oh yeah.
Just like you (assuming you are a cop) get tired of people talking bad about your profession, We the citizens get tired of cops being blatant hypocrites about the laws and hiding behind the badge. Two sides of the fence I guess...depends on which side you're watching from.
OP...sorry to hear you got busted for the tint. Sucks...but it's a risk we take, right? Hopefully the information you've dug up thus far helps you fight the ticket and keep your tint!! Good Luck!!
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Went to the state patrol office today and talked to them, even though you can see the light from 300 feet away altering the light in any form is illegal so the ticket still stands since there is a tint on the light. Hoping since he wrote me up for the wrong infraction i can get it overturned
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Depends on how far you want to go and how much time / money you have. Does the law say you cannot alter the shade or color of the light? If it does, remove the tint. If it does not, take your chances with a judge.
Judges are paid to interpret the law and dole out penalties.
Judges are paid to interpret the law and dole out penalties.
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wouldn't mind taking it to a judge but i don't really want to risk loosing and then having my insurance go up due to it being a moving violation according to state patrol. If it was just the the ticket i wouldn't mind seeing as its not that expensive
All I have to say about this is...some cops pick and choose whether it is worth it or not to give out a ticket and some just want to be ******.
I had a state patrol pull me over on my bike, he told me he couldn't see my plates from where he was. He was on top of an on ramp facing 405 N and the on ramp is a hill coming down to 405.
I took photos and a friend of mine sent me info of where the plates should be on a bike. I took the photos and a copy of the law to court and they dropped it.
Btw, if cops are here to up hold the law, then why are there so many that break the laws. For one, drinking and driving on their off times? Some of you are probably asking how do I know this? I have friends who have cop friends and they tell him all kinds of stories.
A group of us also ride with a motorcycle cop and he speeds all the time on his personal bike when we go for rides. He tells us to follow him, cuz if we get pulled over, he will show his badge. Works for us, but you get my point.
I had a state patrol pull me over on my bike, he told me he couldn't see my plates from where he was. He was on top of an on ramp facing 405 N and the on ramp is a hill coming down to 405.
I took photos and a friend of mine sent me info of where the plates should be on a bike. I took the photos and a copy of the law to court and they dropped it.
Btw, if cops are here to up hold the law, then why are there so many that break the laws. For one, drinking and driving on their off times? Some of you are probably asking how do I know this? I have friends who have cop friends and they tell him all kinds of stories.
A group of us also ride with a motorcycle cop and he speeds all the time on his personal bike when we go for rides. He tells us to follow him, cuz if we get pulled over, he will show his badge. Works for us, but you get my point.
All I have to say about this is...some cops pick and choose whether it is worth it or not to give out a ticket and some just want to be ******.
I had a state patrol pull me over on my bike, he told me he couldn't see my plates from where he was. He was on top of an on ramp facing 405 N and the on ramp is a hill coming down to 405.
I took photos and a friend of mine sent me info of where the plates should be on a bike. I took the photos and a copy of the law to court and they dropped it.
Btw, if cops are here to up hold the law, then why are there so many that break the laws. For one, drinking and driving on their off times? Some of you are probably asking how do I know this? I have friends who have cop friends and they tell him all kinds of stories.
A group of us also ride with a motorcycle cop and he speeds all the time on his personal bike when we go for rides. He tells us to follow him, cuz if we get pulled over, he will show his badge. Works for us, but you get my point.
I had a state patrol pull me over on my bike, he told me he couldn't see my plates from where he was. He was on top of an on ramp facing 405 N and the on ramp is a hill coming down to 405.
I took photos and a friend of mine sent me info of where the plates should be on a bike. I took the photos and a copy of the law to court and they dropped it.
Btw, if cops are here to up hold the law, then why are there so many that break the laws. For one, drinking and driving on their off times? Some of you are probably asking how do I know this? I have friends who have cop friends and they tell him all kinds of stories.
A group of us also ride with a motorcycle cop and he speeds all the time on his personal bike when we go for rides. He tells us to follow him, cuz if we get pulled over, he will show his badge. Works for us, but you get my point.