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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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still to do:
* secure the amps subs and extra battery
* cut out holes for second set of 6.5" components right next to the stock holes
* mod the trim piece that goes over the "hump" to allow sound from both sets of 6.5" components and fit in the tweeters
* finish the sub-woofer enclosures, though I don't know if i want to go all the way to paint finish or just carpet them
* add LCD display to trunk area
* install cameras on all four corners of the car and feed them into a RCA switch to feed into the head unit to make parking and such easier and for interesting driving video
* finish passenger side dash w/ LCD display and two more cup holders... woooo cup holders
* reinstall/remake interior trim, have to wait until after the roll cage for that part though
*subscribe to Sirius so the little box isn't worthless... anyone ever used sirius? pro's/con's?

so should i carpet, paint, or vinyl wrap the sub enclosures and modified trim? im kinda at a loss as to which way to go. carpet is a helluva lot less time consuming and im not sure paint will really add much to the aesthetics

also, anyone know of a car audio RCA switch. im looking for something the will take 4 camera INputs and turn it into one OUTput that will go into the head unit. i've talked to a couple car audio shops and none of them seem to be able to find anything. if you know of a digital switch that would be cool but a mechanical one would be fine too
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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everything looks really good. lulz @ cupholders. are you trying to get 4 cameras on the screen at one time or be able to switch between the 4 of them? all 4 at once, not gonna happen. the manufacturer of your head unit should make a switcher to go between the 4 of them though, just check crutchfield.com (maybe this?). as for the woofer boxes painting will require hours of sanding to get everything smooth and dimple free, especially if you're gonna paint it black. imo carpet will look kinda tacky though. i'd go with a good upholstery vinyl that has leather grain (vinyl will stretch well and conform to the shape) or a fake suede (like alcantara). i do have a question for you though. are there wood boxes behind the fiber glass? if not and you're running 4 woofers in separate enclosures how will you be able to get a uniform sound out of each one?

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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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everything looks really good. lulz @ cupholders. are you trying to get 4 cameras on the screen at one time or be able to switch between the 4 of them? all 4 at once, not gonna happen. the manufacturer of your head unit should make a switcher to go between the 4 of them though, just check crutchfield.com (maybe this?). as for the woofer boxes painting will require hours of sanding to get everything smooth and dimple free, especially if you're gonna paint it black. imo carpet will look kinda tacky though. i'd go with a good upholstery vinyl that has leather grain (vinyl will stretch well and conform to the shape) or a fake suede (like alcantara). i do have a question for you though. are there wood boxes behind the fiber glass? if not and you're running 4 woofers in separate enclosures how will you be able to get a uniform sound out of each one?
no not all at once... i just want to be able to switch between them

that's pretty much the conclusion i came to, i was thinking of doing most/all of the trim (the plastic stuff at least) in a leather texture vinyl wrap

no they are separate sub in separate boxes so far. i'm thinking of doing the calculations to make some hidden bass tubes that connect each pair. ie connect the 12's to each other and the 10's to each other and tuning the 10's to hit high bass and the 12's for low bass... i know i can do it with the 12's easy but im not sure how i'd do the 10's. the 10's are so close in geometry though that it might not really be needed for them.

anyone know where to get leather textured black interior vinyl wrap? i'll google it i suppose

and thanks for the link to the switch thingy
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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well followed the rabbit hole from that link you gave me... the kenwood thingy wont really work for what i'm trying to do but it did give me a starting point. i found these http://www.crutchfield.com/p_469MPSS...4.html?tp=2796 if i get 3 of them i can get the inputs i want and be able to select the proper camera with a switch and a bunch of creative wiring. thanks for the starting point!!
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well followed the rabbit hole from that link you gave me... the kenwood thingy wont really work for what i'm trying to do but it did give me a starting point. i found these http://www.crutchfield.com/p_469MPSS...4.html?tp=2796 if i get 3 of them i can get the inputs i want and be able to select the proper camera with a switch and a bunch of creative wiring. thanks for the starting point!!
i don't think that'll handle a video signal though. you're best option is to probably just call crutchfield and as them what they suggest. they always have knowledgeable people.

and speaking of "best", best foam and fabric in tacoma is where i always go. they have the cheapest prices on speaker box carpet and their vinyl prices are pretty good too. they're cheaper than your local fabric stores like joann or pacific, but they have way more options. they're right off 84th one block east of yakima, or 5 blocks west of pac ave.

what made you decide to run 10s and 12s at the same time? unless you do some careful eq tuning, you're gonna get a lot of cancellation and combative frequencies.
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i don't think that'll handle a video signal though. you're best option is to probably just call crutchfield and as them what they suggest. they always have knowledgeable people.

and speaking of "best", best foam and fabric in tacoma is where i always go. they have the cheapest prices on speaker box carpet and their vinyl prices are pretty good too. they're cheaper than your local fabric stores like joann or pacific, but they have way more options. they're right off 84th one block east of yakima, or 5 blocks west of pac ave.

what made you decide to run 10s and 12s at the same time? unless you do some careful eq tuning, you're gonna get a lot of cancellation and combative frequencies.
well im tuning the 10's to hit higher and the 12's to hit lower, so yeah there will be a lot of careful tuning. if i can't tune it i'll go to a professional to get it worked out. so far it sounds pretty good minus the farting out of the enclosures until i wrap them and seal the subs in. i did decide i was going to go with a leather texture wrap. the toughest part is going to be that the 12's have very different geometry to them and are actually significantly different in size (well not WAY off but about .2 cubic feet, which is way off... you get the point) im hoping i can build some ports that tie in at the right point to tune them together
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if the 10s are gonna be more for mid-bass fill sound, why not just use 8s? JL makes some good ones, 6.5" woofers too.
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if the 10s are gonna be more for mid-bass fill sound, why not just use 8s? JL makes some good ones, 6.5" woofers too.
i originaly bought the 10's with the idea that they were going to satisfy my bass needs/desires. i was wrong so im adding 12's. if i had done better planning before i might have gone with 8's. i also have 3 sets of JL 6.5 woofers 2 sets of xr-650cxi's and 1 set of c5-650's
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i originaly bought the 10's with the idea that they were going to satisfy my bass needs/desires. i was wrong so im adding 12's. if i had done better planning before i might have gone with 8's. i also have 3 sets of JL 6.5 woofers 2 sets of xr-650cxi's and 1 set of c5-650's
are you refering to woofers in component sets or the actual 6W3v3 6.5" subwoofer?

cause if you have those^, if i were you, i'd just eliminate the 10s altogether and save yourself a major tuning headache.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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are you refering to woofers in component sets or the actual 6W3v3 6.5" subwoofer?

cause if you have those^, if i were you, i'd just eliminate the 10s altogether and save yourself a major tuning headache.
ohh no lol... not those... component woofers
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Looks like a pretty involved project. Interested in seeing the final product.
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ohh no lol... not those... component woofers
if i were you i'd just ditch the 10s then. maybe you could mold the box to hold an 8" driver? it would be best and easiest to just eliminate them altogether and just tuning your 12s to a tiny bit higher freq. range say from 20-120hz, and let the component drivers handle from 120 to about 800-1k hz. just my 2 cents though. also interested in the final product.
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yeah... im also poor
know anyone that wants to trade some 8w7 for 10w3?
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yeah... im also poor
know anyone that wants to trade some 8w7 for 10w3?
an 8w7 would be damn near the same size as the 10s you have physically, but with more power handling and a better efficiency and freq. response.
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an 8w7 would be damn near the same size as the 10s you have physically, but with more power handling and a better efficiency and freq. response.
yeah i know... im not even sure the w7's would fit in the little box... it's not too deep. most of the air space is actually in the bottom of the box.
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