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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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Default New Canon Rebel T1i... entry level madness!

Damn.... HD video... 12800 ISO... 15mpxl...

This just redefined entry level at $799 (body only).

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09...noneos500d.asp

DAMN, it's a toss up between the Olympus e-620 and this for me...
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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A bit of advice: look to the long term with the understanding that you'll be upgrading your camera's bodies every few years but likely keeping your flash system and lenses for decades. I keep my five year old Nikon D-70s around as a backup to my year old D-90 as an example.

Lenses and flash systems are why I went with Nikon .

First the Nikon cameras built for the last 50 years use the same lens mount. Seriously, this month the F mount celebrated it's 50th year of production. That sort of commitment isn't shared by the rest of the industry. An expensive lens is going to work on the next generation of Nikon cameras ... and the next ... and the next. Yeah, there are improvements in them generation to generation but the quality glass is still quality glass. Tossing out $3000 worth of lenses every few years sure makes that $1800 camera body upgrade a bit more expensive.

Secondly the Nikon flashes have built-in visible light remote control so if remote flash is important to you this is a big money saver. My Nikon D-70s and D-90 can control my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from about 50 feet away without pocket wizards or other remote control add-ons.

With technology today most of the cameras are far better than the photographer will ever be.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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That's really $200 or so over entry level...plus you'd need to add a lens on top of that. Pentax and Nikon have true entry level D-SLRs closer to the $500mark (just to name two, I'd guess Olympus and Sony offer the same too).

That's not to say it isn't a decent body, but don't let the hype of high ISO get to you or the addition of HD video.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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The high ISO gets me, I like shooting without flash.
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That's really $200 or so over entry level...plus you'd need to add a lens on top of that. Pentax and Nikon have true entry level D-SLRs closer to the $500mark (just to name two, I'd guess Olympus and Sony offer the same too).

That's not to say it isn't a decent body, but don't let the hype of high ISO get to you or the addition of HD video.
Cannon has the XS in that price range but replacing the XSI this is still considered entry level for DSLRs.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul350Z
A bit of advice: look to the long term with the understanding that you'll be upgrading your camera's bodies every few years but likely keeping your flash system and lenses for decades. I keep my five year old Nikon D-70s around as a backup to my year old D-90 as an example.

Lenses and flash systems are why I went with Nikon .

First the Nikon cameras built for the last 50 years use the same lens mount. Seriously, this month the F mount celebrated it's 50th year of production. That sort of commitment isn't shared by the rest of the industry. An expensive lens is going to work on the next generation of Nikon cameras ... and the next ... and the next. Yeah, there are improvements in them generation to generation but the quality glass is still quality glass. Tossing out $3000 worth of lenses every few years sure makes that $1800 camera body upgrade a bit more expensive.

Secondly the Nikon flashes have built-in visible light remote control so if remote flash is important to you this is a big money saver. My Nikon D-70s and D-90 can control my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from about 50 feet away without pocket wizards or other remote control add-ons.

With technology today most of the cameras are far better than the photographer will ever be.
I think you're really barking up the wrong tree here man. Erwin already has thousands of dollars worth of lenses for cannon mounts and flash equipment that will work with both either brand of camera and as posted about them many times on this forum.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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This will be my second body.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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when is this goin to be released?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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It's an interesting body, but the 270EX is very tempting.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul350Z
A bit of advice: look to the long term with the understanding that you'll be upgrading your camera's bodies every few years but likely keeping your flash system and lenses for decades. I keep my five year old Nikon D-70s around as a backup to my year old D-90 as an example.

Lenses and flash systems are why I went with Nikon .

First the Nikon cameras built for the last 50 years use the same lens mount. Seriously, this month the F mount celebrated it's 50th year of production. That sort of commitment isn't shared by the rest of the industry. An expensive lens is going to work on the next generation of Nikon cameras ... and the next ... and the next. Yeah, there are improvements in them generation to generation but the quality glass is still quality glass. Tossing out $3000 worth of lenses every few years sure makes that $1800 camera body upgrade a bit more expensive.

Secondly the Nikon flashes have built-in visible light remote control so if remote flash is important to you this is a big money saver. My Nikon D-70s and D-90 can control my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from about 50 feet away without pocket wizards or other remote control add-ons.

With technology today most of the cameras are far better than the photographer will ever be.
Wish I could say that I'd keep my stuff for decades. But still, who gets rid of $3k in lenses every few years because they don't work when they upgrade their body? Canon only has a few EF-S lenses that don't cost $3k.

My Sunpak 383s and Cyber Syncs cost about the same as a new SB-800 and is very versatile. While you have somewhat valid points, what works for you might not work for others.

I don't agree with the last statement at all.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul350Z
A bit of advice: look to the long term with the understanding that you'll be upgrading your camera's bodies every few years but likely keeping your flash system and lenses for decades. I keep my five year old Nikon D-70s around as a backup to my year old D-90 as an example.

Lenses and flash systems are why I went with Nikon .

First the Nikon cameras built for the last 50 years use the same lens mount. Seriously, this month the F mount celebrated it's 50th year of production. That sort of commitment isn't shared by the rest of the industry. An expensive lens is going to work on the next generation of Nikon cameras ... and the next ... and the next. Yeah, there are improvements in them generation to generation but the quality glass is still quality glass. Tossing out $3000 worth of lenses every few years sure makes that $1800 camera body upgrade a bit more expensive.

Secondly the Nikon flashes have built-in visible light remote control so if remote flash is important to you this is a big money saver. My Nikon D-70s and D-90 can control my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from about 50 feet away without pocket wizards or other remote control add-ons.

With technology today most of the cameras are far better than the photographer will ever be.
I have a Canon 40D, Olympus e-520, and Sigma SD14... all are different tools and each has it's strengths and capabilities. I am not brand loyal, and I do understand *somewhat* this whole SLR thing.

I've been wanting a smaller/compact/portable body to compliment my 40D... sorry dude, I'm not a beginner.

I take that back... only been shotting for 3 1/2 years, and still have much to learn.

But what this body offers is Video on a whim... you don't have to take a camcorder on vacation. The high ISO, will help to stop action in low-light situations (sometimes you may not want shallow DOF that wide apertures will get, nor sometimes wide aperture is not enough).... and the higher pixel count will help on major cropping.

Each person has his wants and needs, and are different priorities to all.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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20fps in 1080p sucks.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:50 AM
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it looks really good, but im not sure if that entry level though....
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul350Z
A bit of advice: look to the long term with the understanding that you'll be upgrading your camera's bodies every few years but likely keeping your flash system and lenses for decades. I keep my five year old Nikon D-70s around as a backup to my year old D-90 as an example.

Lenses and flash systems are why I went with Nikon .

First the Nikon cameras built for the last 50 years use the same lens mount. Seriously, this month the F mount celebrated it's 50th year of production. That sort of commitment isn't shared by the rest of the industry. An expensive lens is going to work on the next generation of Nikon cameras ... and the next ... and the next. Yeah, there are improvements in them generation to generation but the quality glass is still quality glass. Tossing out $3000 worth of lenses every few years sure makes that $1800 camera body upgrade a bit more expensive.

Secondly the Nikon flashes have built-in visible light remote control so if remote flash is important to you this is a big money saver. My Nikon D-70s and D-90 can control my SB-600 and SB-800 flashes from about 50 feet away without pocket wizards or other remote control add-ons.

With technology today most of the cameras are far better than the photographer will ever be.

I get your point, but OP wasn't trying to say that his Canon is longer than
your Canon. He was simply stating that Canon have a new high end entry level dslr.

Lets not turn this forum into my ***** is better than yours kinda forum, there's the political forum for that.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dieselmcore
it looks really good, but im not sure if that entry level though....

High end entry level...
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Canon's Rebel (XXXD) line has always been their "entry level." Their XXD line is enthusiast/semi-pro, and the XD line the pro line...
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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The 1D and 1Ds are, but not sure about the 5D.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stu46
The 1D and 1Ds are, but not sure about the 5D.
i would be willing to bet most people that own 5D's are getting paid in some way to take photos. Pretty much every 5D owner I know is something like a newspaper photographer that uses the papers 1D but owns their own 5D or something like that.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Not what people, but what Canon considers their pro bodies. But since they added EF-S lenses to their CPS program, who knows.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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oooo look canon finally got smart and decided to compete with the D80/D90 level directly!
took long enough lol


Id rather get this though...
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...lNo=Content030
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