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Old 08-23-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Nice!!! I want to see the times this thing puts down.

When's the first track day?

Oh, and one thing. You say S7 cams in the original post, and the dyno graph says C2 cams. I'm assuming they're S7's as the motor looks like a revup.

Regardless, great numbers!
Yeah, I did a typo on the dyno...its a rev-up engine, which means S7 camshafts. The S7 and C2 camshafts are virtually identical...one for rev-up and one for regular.

I told L, to let the carbon triple disc break in for 750 miles, and then let it rip at the track!
Old 08-23-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
It's a good question, that we dont have a 100% answer to. The power drop offs only occur under high boost, which leads me to believe that the TB, or the intake plenum are insufficient to physically flow enough air, to supply an engine spinning at 6000rpm+. The manifold pressure is there...but not the mass of air.
We've tried some fairly high duration camshafts, and still see the same issue.

The turbochargers are basically a GT28xx stuffed with GT30 wheels and machined accordingly. I dont have all the specs on the turbos, but I can ask Jim.

Thanks for the comments.
Please do...I'd like to plot the compressor map..
Old 08-23-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
When I get there tomarrow (to pick her up) I will take it to the local dyno jet and hopefully be all over 700whp.
Cool. That will be a good comparison. I don't recall anyone doing a DD/DJ comparison up there and posting it. I'm guessing it'll make 730-750. Could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
It's a good question, that we dont have a 100% answer to. The power drop offs only occur under high boost, which leads me to believe that the TB, or the intake plenum are insufficient to physically flow enough air, to supply an engine spinning at 6000rpm+. The manifold pressure is there...but not the mass of air.
We've tried some fairly high duration camshafts, and still see the same issue.

The turbochargers are basically a GT28xx stuffed with GT30 wheels and machined accordingly. I dont have all the specs on the turbos, but I can ask Jim.

Thanks for the comments.
Im thinking the TB and intake tract is restricting..Those turbos are the same spec as the APS extreme if I recall..GT28 modded to a GT30.They make GREAT power!!
Now he needs BIG STICKY TIRES!!!
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8 Sec car??
Old 08-23-2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jonb7007
8 Sec car??
Dont think so. Surprise me though.
Old 08-23-2007, 04:34 PM
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Thanks Guys!

I told Sharif i was going to drive it home and run it the next day (Saturday) at Rockingham, NC. He was like, "Can you just give it 750 mile for the clutch to break in".

So next Saturday night I'll run her.

We set the 2 stage at 5k (should build at least 5 to 7psi at the line) we'll see? I never have used it.

The car should not weigh more than 3280 with out me.

I am going to give it a shot with DR's... Ha! I know.

If not then I am going to have to wait till I go up and hook up Alberto, and use his slicks!

My best is a 11.93 with 410@ the wheels. So I am sure I can drop a second off my time with a extra 250@ the wheels.

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Old 08-23-2007, 04:36 PM
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I noticed you're running a rear BBK. Can you fit Welds over them?
Old 08-23-2007, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonb7007
8 Sec car??
Ahh...No!

I'll be happy with some low 10's, but mid 10's I think is attainable.
Old 08-23-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
The car should not weigh more than 3280 with out me.
We'll find out tomorrow when we corner balance it. Right now, it has a 3/4 full tank of gas. After your test drive, it will probably have 1/2 tank.
Old 08-23-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
I noticed you're running a rear BBK. Can you fit Welds over them?
No!
When I go up to meet up with Alberto, I am going to swap them out with little oem rear brakes (just for the event, and back for the road course) so the wheels will fit.
Old 08-23-2007, 04:43 PM
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Thats fukin ridiculous man.. Congrats!
Old 08-23-2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jonb7007
8 Sec car??
To run 8 seconds in a Z you need about 1000whp..And an Automatic..
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Guys look at the AT (ambient temp) 106 degrees, I wonder what it would've made if the temp was 65 or 70 degrees??? Thats like 40 degrees.

I know guys bare with me I am just so stoked right now.
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
To run 8 seconds in a Z you need about 1000whp..And an Automatic..
I second that!
Old 08-23-2007, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
Guys look at the AT (ambient temp) 106 degrees, I wonder what it would've made if the temp was 65 or 70 degrees??? Thats like 40 degrees.

I know guys bare with me I am just so stoked right now.
Quite a bit more I think! That was on "shootout mode" right?

As far as the brakes, from what I understand rear brembos are adequate for a road racing setup (that's what a shop down here is running on their grand am car). The fronts are what really matters. If I wanted the best of both worlds I'd probably coat the rear brembos red and keep the big stoptechs up front. Best of both worlds. Just a thought...
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Originally Posted by taurran
Quite a bit more I think! That was on "shootout mode" right?

As far as the brakes, from what I understand rear brembos are adequate for a road racing setup (that's what a shop down here is running on their grand am car). The fronts are what really matters. If I wanted the best of both worlds I'd probably coat the rear brembos red and keep the big stoptechs up front. Best of both worlds. Just a thought...
I agree 100% the rear BBK is over kill the oem Brembos are more than enough.
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very cool guys!! funny thing is we just did the same thing with the greddy filters on a 700bb kit today


now get to the track luie!!!
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
very cool guys!! funny thing is we just did the same thing with the greddy filters on a 700bb kit today


now get to the track luie!!!
You know me Dude!
Cant wait to see you guys next month! (track meet)
I need a place to stay (I dont smell) your garage is good!
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Nice setup... congrats..


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