Aight, so i've been planning out my n20 kit for a while now and have the NX EFI Stage I kit with some extra addons etc for it. But recently i got an oppertunity cause my bud works for napa and said that they have a brand new NOS Stage I setup sitting in the warehouse that he could sell me for $400. There is now way that i could get any NX or other kit for that price.. But the big decision comes down to.... NX Quality and Recomendation Vs Nos cheap price....

suggestions? I think i know the answer but want to hear what you guys think

 

NX all the way, one of the vendors has the kits on special right now i think

 

+1

 

right on. which vendor ?

 

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....=1#post2643525

 

NOS's setup requires retarding the timing 1 degree per 50 shot. NX does not. NOS rates their power at the flywheel, NX rates it at the wheels. NX has lifetime warranty on parts.....NOS does not. NX has the best nozzles on the market. Everyone has tried to follow suit. NOS is outdated and slowly becoming obsolete.

If I could get NOS for $200-300 less, I still wouldn't buy it. NX all the way baby!!!

 

I is a good idea to retard timing on BOTH setups, I cant understand how one maufacturers N2O kit would NOT require the retarding of timing..Are they using MAGICAL nitrous??
At any rate, both kitw will work just fine...N2O is a bit old school but the basic kit is the same old shizz...

 

I'm willing to bet NX throws more fuel into the mix than the next guy. I retard timing reguardless. Better safe than sorry.

 

Throwing in more fuel is a band aid on a gunshot wound...

 

what are you using to retard your timing? Utech?

 

Yes.

 

Stock ECU can retard up to 4 degrees on it's own. 100 shot or under and you should be ok. I did it for awhile.

 

right on. i would be looking to do the Utech. but not right away. i aint no rich fool! but how would you retard the stock ECU's timing?

 

Basically by creating knock with the addition of Nitrous. Please never refer to it as NAWZ or NOS again, you will be labeled a RICER if you do.
Any way, the stock ECU retards timing a bit if it detects knock, but most you have ZERO control over how much or when or if it is enough to surpress the knock.Basically I like to refer to it as a spray and a prayer method..
If you do find the limits of the ECU knock retard on the spray, chances are the track will be scattered with little bits and pieces of your motor..
Just be careful on Juice, it is highly unpredictable...Keep the shot very low and moderate the usage.Remember, just because you buddy did it or you read on the internet it works, does not mean it will work or is the right way to do it..

 

after having nitrous on two different VQs... i personally LOVE it!! i think that for the money having an 11 sec car is great. i highly recommend it BUT it has to be set up correctly. all that fun can end very very fast....


read up about it on the nitrous sites, figure out exactly what you want to do and then make a list of your parts. i myself along with lots of people will give you some prices and deals, just make sure you know your budget and keep it SAFE!!!

 

 

apparently you didn't catch the joke in choice of title. lol. but i can explain it to you if you want Also "NOS" is the brand name of a nitrous company which im sure your aware of (Holley NOS). Just saying, open up your mind before trying to bash or make fun of someone.

I actually have done alot of reading up on nitrous and know a fair amount about it. I was simply asking on opinion on whether Holly's NOS for a good deal is worth it. But thansk MRC for your input it is appreciated.

 

Ok, First let me go ahead and reply to your incompetence with nitrous.

First, I wouldn't put any stock into what kit makes the most "HP".

Secondly, Most companies suggest retarding of the timing. This is done, as a safety precaution but isn't necessary for all cars. NX should but doesn't do this.

Third, You claim that "NX has the best nozzles on the market." but what do you know about nozzles? I do know something about nozzles and I can tell you that the Shark NX nozzle is pretty bad.

Fourth, The NX solenoid warranty is a joke as far as I am concerned. NX just like any of the major nitrous brands uses PTFE Seals (most common failure). They fail just like any other brand and from my experience getting NX to replace a solenoid with bad plunger seal is almost impossible.


Why? Do I think that the NX Shark nozzle is pretty bad? Well, Its not because the nozzle fails to produce HP because it does a good job of producing HP. No, I don't like the NX Shark nozzle because its atomization isn't very good. The nozzle tends to need more fuel to maintain proper A/F ratio compared to other nozzles on the market due to this reason. The poor atomization can lead to one cylinder running rich and another running lean. Something you defiantly want to avoid with a nitrous setup. Also, as far as NX running more fuel into the mix. Don't bet on it most kits NX makes run a smaller fuel jet per application then NOS. NX is more worried about having the most powerful kit IMHO then really focusing on what really matters to me.

On another note.

Dear, Old School.

I don't even own a 350Z but I do work on them. That is why I post and read this forum. Also, where did you buy three houses in ohio for $5,000? Cause I sure don't live close to that part of ohio.

-Fishey

 

I don't know where to start fishey. after reading your post I can only assume you are trying to find something to argue about with me. half the crap you mentioned doesn't even make sense.

1 - do a search. plenty of ppl have done a dyno comparison on different kits. matter of fact, I saw a post about the edlebrock kits being dynoed and then converted to NX. dyno charts said it all.

2 - what I mentioed it what NX claims in their ads, but IF you can read, check out an NX instruction manual. they say mention what the ad says and to CYA, they also mention a rule of thumb for retarding timing.

3 - what do I know about nozzles? ever heard of john stewart? aka mr. nitrous? he only designed all of NX's systems. and what do you know, he lives a whole 15 minutes from my house. well, not now. his wife julie still lives there. john passed away about 2 years ago. use to hang out in his garage. very cool guy to shoot the sh*t with. always showing you the new things he was working on. nozzles, adapters, and my favorite...prototype intake manifold for a viper.

4 - had a pruge go out on me. it was the electrical part that went out. no problem replacing mine.

5 - saw nozzles in action at john's place. beautiful...no other word to describe it. shark n piranah.

6 - i'll get the list of the three properties I bought at auction in ohio. out of town now and my phone is almost dead. argue with you more later. don't think to hard there slick....you might hurt yourself and look like an *** for sure. later dumbsh*t.

 

sorry for jacking your thread dch...

fishey, here's the auction hoe! Look close, you might live in one of these houses.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4470262869

I actually bought several houses there. This auction just happen to be where they sold 3 houses in one deal. I have 2 more in the same area and one in Barberton, just a little ways outside Cleveland.