New Roll Bar-less visibility.
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New Roll Bar-less visibility.
Got a new roll bar installed. Custom, in order to get it far back enough because I'm tall. The combination of my height and the roll bar main hoop placement cuts my rear visibility in half. Not a huge issue but it occurs to me that if the mirror were lower I'd get most of my visibility back. Is it possible to reposition the OEM mirror lower or is there any type of 'clip on' mirror that would sit just below the OEM one?
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Interesting- in my SCCA six-point roll cage, rearward visibility is quite good. Of course, my race seat placement is lower to get sufficient head clearance when seated. The non-electric rearview mirror works fine, although I've considered putting in a Wink (wideview) mirror at times. In any case, if your rearward vision is partially blocked, putting the rear mirror lower may not solve the problem. Experiment with placing the OEM mirror lower on the windshield by using racer tape to secure it before proceeding further. Make sure you have a good view for a distance behind you before making any changes.
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The one from Jegs would be good but I have a roll bar and not a cage so no way to attach that type.
I have found some suction cup based rear view mirrors which might work.
dkmura, in terms of the OEM mirror, I do not know how to remove or reinstall. I'm sure having a mirror lower down will solve the problem. Maybe I'll experiment with a suction cup mirror and once I get placement correct them move the OEM one if I can figure out how to do that. I think there is wiring that might limit how far down I could move it.
I have found some suction cup based rear view mirrors which might work.
dkmura, in terms of the OEM mirror, I do not know how to remove or reinstall. I'm sure having a mirror lower down will solve the problem. Maybe I'll experiment with a suction cup mirror and once I get placement correct them move the OEM one if I can figure out how to do that. I think there is wiring that might limit how far down I could move it.
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The one from Jegs would be good but I have a roll bar and not a cage so no way to attach that type.
I have found some suction cup based rear view mirrors which might work.
dkmura, in terms of the OEM mirror, I do not know how to remove or reinstall. I'm sure having a mirror lower down will solve the problem. Maybe I'll experiment with a suction cup mirror and once I get placement correct them move the OEM one if I can figure out how to do that. I think there is wiring that might limit how far down I could move it.
I have found some suction cup based rear view mirrors which might work.
dkmura, in terms of the OEM mirror, I do not know how to remove or reinstall. I'm sure having a mirror lower down will solve the problem. Maybe I'll experiment with a suction cup mirror and once I get placement correct them move the OEM one if I can figure out how to do that. I think there is wiring that might limit how far down I could move it.
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I'll drive it on the street for a while and might get used to it but the upper third of the back window is blocked. This would be an issue for cars in the distance or uphill behind me. Cars in the distance aren't that big a deal but I've been on track at VIR with Porsche GT3 Cup cars and Ferrari Challenge 458s. They come up on a stock 350z right fast.
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As long as you don't have a Homelink mirror, wiring shouldn't be much of a problem. But I'm not sure how "cars in the distance aren't that big a deal"? Managing traffic is only possible if you anticipate it. Being able to quickly scan my mirror and identify faster cars and gauge their distance is usually CRITICAL for me. Timing where to draft off a faster car in qualifying or the race can make or break a session. Conversely, finding a faster car suddenly filling your mirrors in a series of linked turns is no fun at all.
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But I'm not sure how "cars in the distance aren't that big a deal"?
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its only a few wires to lengthen, not a big deal.. the plastic wire cover would be the only pita part, still not im possible to correct.
all mirrors have a base that is glued to the glass. Any glass place can do this for you, or there are kits to do it yourself. Glue it where you wish.
all mirrors have a base that is glued to the glass. Any glass place can do this for you, or there are kits to do it yourself. Glue it where you wish.
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Ordered a suction cup rearview mirror off of Amazon. It was cheap so nothing lost if it doesn't work. I think positioning it lower should solve the problem. My race seat is down low but I'm 6'4" so my helmet touches the headliner.
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The suction cup mirror works perfectly (if it stays on). I've also researched how to remove the OEM mirror and it isn't that hard. So once I get a chance I'll remove the OEM mirror and get another mount for it and put it where I want it. I don't have a garage so don't care about Home Link functionality and will just leave it unplugged.
Now I just have to find out where to get a mirror base. I'm assuming the windshield companies either know how to get them off the glass and re-sticking them or they must have a source for them.
Now I just have to find out where to get a mirror base. I'm assuming the windshield companies either know how to get them off the glass and re-sticking them or they must have a source for them.
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Feel like I'm talking to myself here but this info might help someone else. I found a mirror base at Concept Z. $25 shipped. Kind of pricey but this will allow me to put the OEM mirror where I want it. Now I just have to find out how to glue it on as I doubt it comes with instructions although it might have adhesive on the back of it.
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I'm wondering what your rear visibility is like with a low-mounted rearview mirror? The angle out the steeply raked rear window will probably make the view more of a slit. That makes a difference when you're sizing up traffic with a glance.
Personally, it took a few tries with my fabricator to come up with seat mounts low enough to make the OEM mirror work. I swapped out the Homelink mirror for a standard mirror from a base model.
Personally, it took a few tries with my fabricator to come up with seat mounts low enough to make the OEM mirror work. I swapped out the Homelink mirror for a standard mirror from a base model.
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My seat is pretty low. Lower than the OEM seat anyway. But, with the suction cup mirror just under the OEM one (and the OEM one angled up and out of the way to make room for it) the view is pretty close to normal. I can still see the bottom of the main hoop but not much.
So, I'm thinking when I move the OEM mirror it will only have to be lowered a little bit.
If the mirror base I ordered doesn't get here before I go to VIR I'll just remove the OEM mirror and use the suction cup one. I'm satisfied with the view through it.
So, I'm thinking when I move the OEM mirror it will only have to be lowered a little bit.
If the mirror base I ordered doesn't get here before I go to VIR I'll just remove the OEM mirror and use the suction cup one. I'm satisfied with the view through it.
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Got the mirror "button" from CZP. Will glue it up today. Sounds like the success rates for gluing these things is about 50/50.
The OEM mirror is easy to remove and I've mocked up where I need to mount it and the view is good.
The OEM mirror is easy to remove and I've mocked up where I need to mount it and the view is good.
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Glued up the mirror button with a Permatex kit. Was not confident that it would hold but it stayed in place driving to work this morning. Visibility is fine and much better than the cheap-o suction cup rear view mirror. If it will stay up....problem solved.
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Last post on this, I hope. The OEM mirror fell off from its new position after 2 sessions of curb hopping at VIR. Cheap-o plastic suction cup mirror stayed stuck to the windshield but flopped all over the place so I JB welded its ball joint in place and it barely sufficed for the rest of the weekend. I'm blaming my poor track times on a crappy rearview mirror and worrying about traffic behind me the whole time......
So, I ordered a different type of glue for the mirror button and ordered a lighter weight but 'real' aftermarket rearview mirror.
I went to mark up where I wanted to glue the button on and found that this aftermarket mirror has a longer stalk and more adjustment and it will swing down low enough from the original position OEM button. The mirror is nice and clear with no distortion.
Problem solved. No second button necessary. I'm a happy man.
So, I ordered a different type of glue for the mirror button and ordered a lighter weight but 'real' aftermarket rearview mirror.
I went to mark up where I wanted to glue the button on and found that this aftermarket mirror has a longer stalk and more adjustment and it will swing down low enough from the original position OEM button. The mirror is nice and clear with no distortion.
Problem solved. No second button necessary. I'm a happy man.
Last edited by N80; 10-16-2017 at 01:42 PM.