Originally Posted by hr2burn

Devildog,
Are you going to install yourself? If you have access to some tools there, I'm sure we could find a step by step instructions. I think this is gonna be my next upgrade, can't wait to hear what you think.
Jman

Originally Posted by myspivey

I simply was referring to the fact that a 20 year experienced racer has skipped on the coilovers (they cost you more points in class racing, bad bad bad) and gone with a spring and shock setup he feels is very balanced for the Z. Now I’m no pro racer, but id tend to think that if someone with that sort of experience is willing to skip the coilovers id be interested to hear why.

Originally Posted by hr2burn

Ummmmm....okay.....wasn't referring to your posts. You we're open minded and put some thought worthy contribution to the thread. It's the people that just say "your stuff sucks", "my car is better than yours" etc.... that I have had it with.
Mahalo

Originally Posted by myspivey

There is an issue in that. Coilovers are NOT the best bang for the buck; they are one type of use for the buck. I’ve had every setup known to man on three very different cars as well, so a lecture on what’s good and not as good would be silly. I simply was referring to the fact that a 20 year experienced racer has skipped on the coilovers (they cost you more points in class racing, bad bad bad) and gone with a spring and shock setup he feels is very balanced for the Z. Now I’m no pro racer, but id tend to think that if someone with that sort of experience is willing to skip the coilovers id be interested to hear why. Coilovers are expensive, and the only real addition you get is the adjustment. If there is a cheaper setup out there that doesn’t need adjustment and works just as well, wouldn’t you see that as the preferred option? Or how bout the white konis, those you can adjust and they are still cheaper, and you didn’t have to buy coilovers, or if you want, later, you can buy some sleeve coilovers. Im rather excited to hear dogs thoughts on these suckers since I’ve heard a couple of mixed reviews but mostly rave reviews of the tein setup he has selected and when still trying to make up my mind over a shock/spring setup its intresteing to hear another CO guys thoughts. Oh, and trust me, i love the idea of coilovers, I’m a sucker for that in car adjustment, i wanted the JICs for a long while, I’ve had the flex's before. But when thinking about the cash, i knew there were better things i could do with my money that would be more productive on a track. I think one thing the CO group has started to do more and more is think about what mods will help most on the track for the lowest reasonable dollar. Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s sort of beyond the realm of what you’re thinking. I don’t know if your ace or not and I’m not trying to say you dont understand that thinking but it’s just something to keep in mind when joining the southwest forum since that’s’ pretty big with us gear heads right now! Be well, thanks for your thoughts and hope your enjoying the nice weather! Let us know how it turns out devildog!

Oh and by the way, coilovers allow height change, not dampening. The shock handles that which you can buy without a coilover spring. I know you understand this I just wanted to clarify your post for those that don’t know the difference. The coilover spring is not the force of the rebound simply the height (and preload which can also effect ride). The force of the rebound is handled entirely on the shock, the in car adjustment systems have a motor that just turns the adjustment **** from in car. For example you can’t adjust height on a coilover setup while driving, have to take everything off (or mostly off) and adjust the collar. If you want height control from in car you need to go to an airbag setup (or extremely expensive airshock setup)