+9 x INFINITY

 

+ i dont care.

 

+10

 

+10 -1 = +9

but I'm biased

 

umm its a stock nismo z sweet. A well modded 350 powns it. Like walkerts for example.

 

A stock Nismo Z isn't much slower than a Z with a couple of bolt-ons and that's only in a straight line. In fact, most Zs are all about the same in terms of straight line acceleration. Start turning and the Nismo Z will more than make up whatever it lacks in a straight line and then some.

 

But for the price difference, assuming you do your own work, you can make a much faster and better handling z easy. Set of nice coilovers tein mono flex minimum sway bars(350evo or hotchkiss) and a good performance alignment/ corner balance and a nismo z will get raped. And a set of decent tires.

 

Well, you mentioned Travis's Z, which only has a few bolt-ons, none of which will allow it to compete with the Nismo Z on turns. So, I assumed, well-modded meant a few bolt-ons. But yes, if you start doing suspension mods and power mods to get up to the price range of a Nismo Z, the modded Z will beat it.

 

+11

 

When I was talking about Travis's z I meant just power and looks. I forgot the nismo had the suspension until it was mentioned.

 

SO ... Shocks , Springs and Sways and LSD would not help me hand a Nismo its ***. I beg to differ

Not to mention lighter.


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in a track environment the main difference will be the driver (period) regardless of the car (unless we are talking about 1/4 mile or superspeedway)
on the road will be the stupidity of the driver.

 

+12

 

I know it would only be a matter of time before a Nismo owner would chime in.

Yea fall back on that driver line. jk

I would love to run you at Ennis or TMS park and yes any human can make a mistake.

I think the piont was not to get into a who is better but to show that a capable Z could be made for thousands less than buying a Nismo.

 

+12

 

ok here.
2007 nismo z-meah
meah suspension gai wheels is that a body kit?
2007 regular base model blah blah blah
add sways
add coilovers
add 350evo nismo lsd/3.9fd
add full lip kit and some sticky tires.

That nismo will get its *** handed to it. Assuming both drivers are equal, and this is on a road course. Sorry im not a drag racer. Hell throw some r compounds and sways on the z and it will do damn well. And the 3.9fd isnt necessary but it would make up for the extra bs power the nismo has.

 

Well, Nissan engineers > you. Whatever you thought was best for your car is nothing compared to what Nissan engineers experimented and researched. Just because you have aftermarket parts, it doesn't mean each mod complements one another, work in perfect synchrony, better than Nismo, etc. And you keep bringing up the issue of weight, but you do realize the Zs are pretty much all similar in weight, right?

As far as being on the track, all Z's are similar. It's all about the launch and last time I checked, nobody was consistent enough to pull consistent 2.0's or lower.

Driver's skills > what little power mods or suspension mods or weight differences each car has (Nismo, base, touring, modded, non-modded, etc).

 

bahhh you damn asian ninja. Im talking about a road course, and I think travis is too. If you want to drag race. I bet youll run faster times in my gto than I will. Hows that for driver skills? bah that made no sense. But seriously take my gto down the track for me.

 

1st part was road course, 2nd part was drag strip, then 3rd was for both. Sorry for not making that clear.

Either way, just because you mod, it doesn't mean it's better than a car that was designed by corporate engineers. And regardless of what track, driver's skills are more important than modding your car.

 

Nissan put some mods together to sell a dieing design not make a track monster. I think that it does have some good things like the extra welds. I can run on the track and tune my mods to improve my times. With the nismo you are stuck with a mass produced Soft track car. Enjoy.

A track has corners - strip is a straight line.