amateur tuning question
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amateur tuning question
i have searched all around but coudlent find the answer i needed. I have an 06 manual and was wondering what good would getting a utec or such help with gains. The only thing i have on is a plenum and soon a popcharger and maybe exhaust. WIth these mods will i be getting noticible gains if i get my car tuned? and waht system do you recommed? thank you all ahead of time
I've had both UTEC and Osiris/Cipher, and my 2 cents:
UTEC is easy to tune AFR, but timing it is difficult to get optimum settings because of temperature changes. Your stock ECU changes ignition timing depending on temperature (and maybe other variables), so a timing curve that pulls hard at 70 degrees may knock like a **** at 100 degrees.
Osiris/Cipher: Cipher itself can bump your stock timing 2 degrees across the board. This is a good starting point for advanced timing. Osiris can tune your AFR.
Another benefit of Osiris/Cipher is that you can log your AFR from your factory O2 sensors. With UTEC, you have two options: 1) get UTEC tuner, and install an extra O2 sensor in your exhaust to log AFR, or 2) log AFR using factory O2 sensors and Cipher. If you're going to buy Cipher to log AFR, you might as well buy Osiris/Cipher package.
And yes, noticeable gains with timing and AFR adjustment.
UTEC is easy to tune AFR, but timing it is difficult to get optimum settings because of temperature changes. Your stock ECU changes ignition timing depending on temperature (and maybe other variables), so a timing curve that pulls hard at 70 degrees may knock like a **** at 100 degrees.
Osiris/Cipher: Cipher itself can bump your stock timing 2 degrees across the board. This is a good starting point for advanced timing. Osiris can tune your AFR.
Another benefit of Osiris/Cipher is that you can log your AFR from your factory O2 sensors. With UTEC, you have two options: 1) get UTEC tuner, and install an extra O2 sensor in your exhaust to log AFR, or 2) log AFR using factory O2 sensors and Cipher. If you're going to buy Cipher to log AFR, you might as well buy Osiris/Cipher package.
And yes, noticeable gains with timing and AFR adjustment.
if you search around for threads started by me, you will notice about 25hp gains from plenum, high flow cats, popcharger and tuning on stock exhaust ... probably a little more with a good exhaust system
that said, you haven't been doing your homework. search the forums, find dynos, and learn for yourself
that said, you haven't been doing your homework. search the forums, find dynos, and learn for yourself
Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
that said, you haven't been doing your homework. search the forums, find dynos, and learn for yourself
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Originally Posted by haidz
i have searched all around but coudlent find the answer i needed. I have an 06 manual and was wondering what good would getting a utec or such help with gains. The only thing i have on is a plenum and soon a popcharger and maybe exhaust. WIth these mods will i be getting noticible gains if i get my car tuned? and waht system do you recommed? thank you all ahead of time
Getting mine soon, no later than Xmas! lol
Originally Posted by RebelinRI
Oh Oh........... now you done it!!! You went gone done ticked off the teacher now!! I better not get extra homework because of you.
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