Church Automotive/Osiris
05-05-2008, 07:05 PM
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Went back to the dyno today. Car had 1/2 93 octane and 1/2 100 octane.
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash:
Thought the race map looked a bit lean, so switched to the 93 octane performance map for the last pull.
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash vs. SC Osiris 93 octane map
The goal was to get back some of the low/mid power that I lost when going from my setup with the MD MREV2 and spacer(TS reflash) to my setup with the cosworth plenum, and gain a bit more on top (SC Osiris reflash).
Results:
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash w/ MD MREV2 and spacer:
To be fair: 93 octane SC Osiris reflash w/ Cosworth Plenum vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash w/ MD MREV2 and spacer:
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash:
Thought the race map looked a bit lean, so switched to the 93 octane performance map for the last pull.
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash vs. SC Osiris 93 octane map
The goal was to get back some of the low/mid power that I lost when going from my setup with the MD MREV2 and spacer(TS reflash) to my setup with the cosworth plenum, and gain a bit more on top (SC Osiris reflash).
Results:
SC Osiris race map vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash w/ MD MREV2 and spacer:
To be fair: 93 octane SC Osiris reflash w/ Cosworth Plenum vs. 93 octane Technosquare reflash w/ MD MREV2 and spacer:
05-06-2008, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
they use off-the-shelf maps based on data logs sent... Shawn was trying to help John do custom maps (by dyno) remote - UpRev doesn't do this.
That said, dyno time is the only way to get more out of any system, and should be performed by a professional like Church Automotive, or any of our Pro Tuners.
05-07-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
Just another reason not to go with UpRev.
All those dynos show more power with Osiris vs Technosquare. The only difference is in the Cosworth lower plenum making less power in his current setup. Also his current setup is changing when he gets his HKS stuff, and Technosquare cannot itself support FI systems and he'd have to go piggyback or stand alone. Ours does.
If this is ANOTHER reason not to go with our product, what other reasons are there exactly?
Last edited by UpRev; 05-07-2008 at 12:20 PM.
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Fluid1
Just another reason not to go with UpRev.
. It's a big plus to be offered support for my anticipated F/I setup as well. Technosqaure can't do that, as mentioned by the above rep. from Uprev.I'm 100% satisfied and the results speak for themselves.
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05-07-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GrayG35
way too much for the dyno. how much better does the race gas tune feel?
The race gas map yielded ~8 lbs. trq pretty much accross the entire power band. It feels a bit stronger than the 93 performance map. But the cost of 100 octane is pretty high.
05-07-2008, 01:29 PM
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05-07-2008, 02:29 PM
#31
Originally Posted by gothchick
The race gas tune was way too lean @ 14.5 ~ 15.0. Probably a lot of power left on the table there too. I'd stick with the 93 until you can tune the race gas a bit richer...
the cipher logs for the dyno pulls read ~13. I think the dyno a/f sensor was off.
05-07-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
all this time and money spent and you could have just done a Haltech, been able to fully have the setup tuned now and in the future, regardless of future mods.
Please explain how Haltech is less expensive than Osiris. Dyno time aside, because you know as well as anyone that the Haltech doesn't tune itself. You offer eTuning services on Haltech units for customers that can't drive back to you every time they want something tweaked? Stop trolling up threads where someone is happy and content about their purchase, honestly thats not a good way to endear yourself to potential customers or manufacturers.
05-07-2008, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UpRev
Please explain how Haltech is less expensive than Osiris. Dyno time aside, because you know as well as anyone that the Haltech doesn't tune itself. You offer eTuning services on Haltech units for customers that can't drive back to you every time they want something tweaked? Stop trolling up threads where someone is happy and content about their purchase, honestly thats not a good way to endear yourself to potential customers or manufacturers.
05-07-2008, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UpRev
We don't do tunes based on dyno time? Since when? Thats exactly what we do with our eTune setups, and our base maps. All of our maps are based on actual dyno tuning that we've done on cars with similar setups. We've got a larger more accurate library of maps than any one and we can adjust all of our base maps using the logs you send back to us to tweak your particular tune.
That said, dyno time is the only way to get more out of any system, and should be performed by a professional like Church Automotive, or any of our Pro Tuners.
That said, dyno time is the only way to get more out of any system, and should be performed by a professional like Church Automotive, or any of our Pro Tuners.
BTW - your words in red is exactly what I said John was doing...
05-08-2008, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by UpRev
All those dynos show more power with Osiris vs Technosquare. The only difference is in the Cosworth lower plenum making less power in his current setup. Also his current setup is changing when he gets his HKS stuff, and Technosquare cannot itself support FI systems and he'd have to go piggyback or stand alone. Ours does.
If this is ANOTHER reason not to go with our product, what other reasons are there exactly?
If this is ANOTHER reason not to go with our product, what other reasons are there exactly?
#1: Customer Service.
05-08-2008, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by UpRev
Please explain how Haltech is less expensive than Osiris. Dyno time aside, because you know as well as anyone that the Haltech doesn't tune itself. You offer eTuning services on Haltech units for customers that can't drive back to you every time they want something tweaked? Stop trolling up threads where someone is happy and content about their purchase, honestly thats not a good way to endear yourself to potential customers or manufacturers.
Technosquare I think can support at least some FI setups. I have a local customer with a G35 who was sending his ecu to them shortly (he is changing pullies and doing a spacer), and has a supercharger setup - I think this is the second time they will have tuned him (first time was a couple years ago)
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05-08-2008, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
#1: Customer Service.
05-08-2008, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
As a standalone mod of course its not, but that isn't what I wrote, nor would I. If you add up the time and money spent by the OP on the first technoflash, then the time and money spent on the osirus flash, plus the subsequent dynos, the downtime waiting for someone else to do the programming for him, etc, he could have gone with, for example, a haltech from the outset. Especially if he is going with a forced induction setup down the road...that was my only point. Simply a matter of opinion that is all, don't get all twisted, it was not a knock on your product, or on any other means of engine mgmt. options, just a comment. I think your product is a welcome addition to the community, and the more worthwhile options someone has, the better. If the OP is happy, that is all that matters.
Technosquare I think can support at least some FI setups. I have a local customer with a G35 who was sending his ecu to them shortly (he is changing pullies and doing a spacer), and has a supercharger setup - I think this is the second time they will have tuned him (first time was a couple years ago)
Technosquare I think can support at least some FI setups. I have a local customer with a G35 who was sending his ecu to them shortly (he is changing pullies and doing a spacer), and has a supercharger setup - I think this is the second time they will have tuned him (first time was a couple years ago)
Trust me I've spent enough time hanging around the Boost Logic guys to know what a stand alone can do in the right hands, they just happen to have customers who carry gold bricks in their pockets.
The thought of sending your ECU cross country every time you need to update you tune I don't even have to mention.
05-09-2008, 05:51 AM
#39
Originally Posted by App6MT
Jared has always been prompt with responding to my 100+ emails I wrote in the first month of owning Osiris, even when it was just him and Matt. So to say that customer service isn't there, you don't know what you're talking about.
I have had TWO personal experiences with their poor customer service. Being that I was the one who had the experiece, I can clearly make the call here, based on my experience.
I was stupid to give them a second chance.
05-09-2008, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
You are a ******* idiot.
I have had TWO personal experiences with their poor customer service. Being that I was the one who had the experiece, I can clearly make the call here, based on my experience.
I was stupid to give them a second chance.
I have had TWO personal experiences with their poor customer service. Being that I was the one who had the experiece, I can clearly make the call here, based on my experience.
I was stupid to give them a second chance.
I've had great experience with UpRev's customer service. I say this from my own personal experience. Heck, they even re-tuned and sent my Orisis map on a Sunday!! They are a small shop and very busy, this is true. So they don't have time to drop everything just to cater to non-paying or even maybe-paying customers, because they're busy working on customer tunes/flashes (if they were a bigger shop and could afford the overhead of a few more bodies, they would).
But when you're ready to pull the trigger with Orisis or a reflash, they're spot on with their commitment and responsiveness.
Of coarse, now, I doubt you even have that option with them. Maybe you should just get a Haltech, get it tuned, and call it good~
Last edited by gothchick; 05-09-2008 at 06:11 AM.