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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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Default Haltech wideband issues: displays incorrect a/f

Ok, here is a pic of my dual wideband log.

I was looking at it and noticed they aren't the same and look quite a bit off based on the lines BUT if you look at the reading they are only .1 away from each other.

So, wideband 1 is on the 13 a/f line and wideband 2 is on the 14.5 line but the numbers say wideband 1 is 14.6 and wideband 2 is 14.5.

What the H is going on with this thing?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Two different axis? Click on the logged channel to update the axis to that channel.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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I'm confused. Is there an update area when I click on the channel? If u mean to just select it ived clicked back and forth between the two and nothing has changed in the logs.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Send me the log, I'll have a look.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Weird - looks like a bug in the data logger.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Weird - looks like a bug in the data logger.
that's what i thought. so i'm not sure which to trust, the lines or the display numbers. I've been trusting my displays because currently i don't have any gauges hooked up so i've been rolling around with my laptop.

i just rebooted my laptop so i'll check the log again and see if it makes a difference.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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nope, after the reboot it didn't change anything. I actually found another place too.

This picture shows that the a/f is exactly 14.0 on each channel but the lines are a whole point off. Kind of strange.

I'm wondering now if my bank to bank differences that i've always had was just the fact that the trace lines are off and i never checked the actual a/f level.

Later today i'll try to uninstall and re-install the haltech software.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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why not look at the raw csv file.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
why not look at the raw csv file.
That's what this is from. Do you mean look at it in another program?
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open the file in excel and see if they are 14.5 or not in the same spot
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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ya, i opened it in excel and none of the log channels are labeled and i have no idea what units it is in so it's basically pointless. It says "lambda" has a max/min of 2000. Last i knew lambda was set at 1 and then goes up and down from there. Plus i have no idea which column it refers to since they aren't labeled.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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here is the csv file if you want to look. There is nothing in that mess of numbers that resembles the a/f i'm seeing in this log.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Jeff, just checked out your csv in log viewer... it is an axis difference. Click the "Calibrations - O2 sensor" up top to change which line is bolded and the corresponding axis is displayed.

O2 1 is 10.5 - 16, and O2 2 is 10.5 to 18.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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ok, so i change the filter on them to match?

hmm, once would think it should match them when you do an overlay but i guess not.

This looks even worse now that i have them lined up. Some places are 2 points difference in a/f between banks. what is really going on with this car now....
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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weird, when i opened my csv logs, it was all labeled. i used excel to make my charts over the logger.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Idk, maybe my Excel is messed up. Take a peek and see if they are properly labeled on your Excel.
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I recently had issues with a/f ratios between the banks. It turned out to be an exhaust leak, on bank two, three bolt flange. It caused all kinds of issues when it comes to a/f ratios.

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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Ya, I've thought about that but I've had these on and off about 5 times now with new Gaskets and this last time.even used copper gasket spray as well has my 1/2" drive breaker bar to tighten them down. It would be strange that I had the same Af differences after doing the exhaust multiple times unless the leak isn't at the gasket.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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ohh duh, i'm thinking about my cipher logs...

no way to make the axis the same. when you adjust so 2 points match their numerical value, the next spot down the log doesnt match up.

By numerical value, there is no difference. That's what I would go by
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Ya, I'm just going to use.numerical value. I did find some points that were 2 full points off though. Wasn't in boost so I don't think I should worry much.
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