Whats up guys.. installed my test pipes 2 days ago and noticed a loss in lower end power (im assuming because its running lean now) i generally would just run it lean for a bit until i got around to tuning it but im also instill my wet kit this weekend and know that can also cause it to run lean so those 2 together could be a bad combo. that being said i believe i should tune it asap (unless you guys think it will be okay for a little while i wont be spraying alot) but i dont have 500-700 to drop on osiris at the moment.. any body know of any other options for tuning thT may be a little more affordable and help me get my lower end back? i was considering running a cobb AP and data loggig it and sending it to a tuner but i cant find an AP (2007 HR) anynody have any ideas?

 

Dont spray if youre not tuned. Problem solved.

 

problem not solved. Still running lean with test pipes and lost bottom end. problem still existing

 

Are you running lean or getting a lean code?

 

no codes.. just assumed i was running lean due to the lose of low end torque and the test pipe install

 

I dont think test pipes along is going to cost such a dramatice power loss. There might be something else. At any rate, tune asap and dont spray in the mean time and that should be fine.

 

what everyone said...you will not gain bottom end with test pipes...test pipes are for high-rpm gains...OEM cats do just fine flowing 2000rpms worth of exhaust.

and if a $700 tune is too steep of a hill to hike to get your car running right heaven help if you fork-up your block with that wet kit!

 

wet kit will be safe as long as i monitor the a/f ratio close andd dont get spray happy. $700 isnt to much for a tune just didnt account for it right this second. was gonna wait until later this year

 

If A/F was the only thing that matters, no one would ever build their blocks. But its your car do as you wish.

Me, i rather do it right and do it right the first time. If i was going to blow an engine, itll be 800hp+ on a dyno, not because i was too cheap to spend 700 on a tune and have to get towed home from walmart.

 

the only real danger when running a shot that small (75 shot) is how lean you would be on spray. Unless i did a big shot and got bottle happy then i don't have to worry about my rings or anything of that nature. Besides, tune or no tune if you run a big shot continuously, sometime your gonna get ****ed. That being said, i do plan on getting it tuned and moving up to a 100 or a 125 shot and retarding the timing a bit

 

Do as you wish, im done. Ive seen your old posts, you kike to cheap out on builds. Your car, do as you please, but dont say people didnt warn you.

 

actually if you reread the post i came on asking for another option for e-tuning other than osiris.. yet you haven't answered this question at all

 

I'm not throwing stones (yet) but from where I'm sitting it sounds like you are being 'penny wise, pound-foolish'...

you're just dropped (insert dollar amount here) for pipes and a wet kit...but you don't want to spend the $1000 for osiris/dyno tune but would look into a ??$300-$500?? on an access port to get by with an etune(not to mentioned that cost) simply as a temp fix

and then what? spend the $1000 to get osiris and get it tuned correctly?

how are you 'closely monitoring' your AFRs now? and what are you doing to modify said AFRs when you go lean or rich? Wait for the OEM widebands to catch it?

Theres nothing wrong with not having the money right now, we get it, there are other priorities in life, but just save up to do it right...how quickly can you save $1000?

forget that - just save up the money to get the tune done right, one and done - that's what I'm saying and I think that's what Turboed350z is getting at ... but what do we know?

 

the wet kit is not in until this weekend and i have a wideband coming from enjuku racing. i do plan on getting the car tuned from osiris but didnt plan on spending $1000 right now on it as i have bills and what not to pay. i was just looking for another etune to get everything right. i know osiris is the better option performance wise also but as i said i was trying to check out other options that maybe i could do right now

 

Why not just NOT install the kit until you get enough for a tune? Youre willing to spend 500 and 1000 later instead of just spending of just waitig a bit long and spending 1000 for a proper tune?

Its not like you HAVE to have the kit installed and spray the day you get it.

But you know, youre right im not answering your original question because i dont want to be blame when your engine blows...

 

may just install the kit and not fill the bottle. but i dont see how you recommending another tune could be the reason my engine blows. theres tons of other tunes out there. just wanted to know a good one. may just wait to fill the bottle then

 

Get a utec for $300 shipped (probably someone selling off this site) learn how to tune yourself(its not that hard)