I did a search but couldn't find it ....

Has anyone else seen this .... holy crap ... what is this guy running ??

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Just figured out this is fito's car .... nice job dude !!

 

wow!

 

I doubt those are stock internals, anybody can have a fully built motor and say its stock, their is no way to prove it. But if it does have "stock internals" I can gurantee it wont last long.

 

Holy shift that was fast. Did he have slicks on

 

Dammm must have had slicks on. That grip was right on.

 

This is the guys thread .... pretty damn impressive if you ask me

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/135394-holy-cow-update-11-5-119mph-stock-internals.html

Daddy, I WANT ONE !!!! NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Read his thread in the FI forum that he clearly states that he has a competely stock motor and is backed up by witnesses.

So are you some motor building expert with your GAURANTEE that it won't last??

 

so because he has witnesses it must be stock? Uh, I used to hussle back in the day people on the streets with Dr Charles (if you even know who that is). He built a motor of mine and all my friends said it had stock internals and people would race me all the time and we made tons of money. Its a he said she said thing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't take a rocket science to realize that the motor will give out sooner than in stock form. C-mon, don't be so naive the motor wasn't meant to be FI. Your putting major stress on the internal components and a motor is only as strong as its weakest link, with that said one little taste of bad gas and he gets detonation BOOM that engine is gone! I been around major tuners and its not me just saying it. Go call SP Engineering tomorrow and get a "professional" opinion about this setup, I am sure they will tell you the same thing. It won't last very long

 

Just in case you think im full of $hit. Here is my previous car in a magazine, read the article. My car was Dyno Tuned at Import Builders where Dr. Charles used to work. Charles is amongst the best Import Tuner in the world, he currently pilots the Skunk2 Car and holds many records. Has an amazing reputation here in S.Cali and was working at Autolink.

 

I think its very possible he's on a stock block. But im more concerned as how he didn't bog. Everytime I launch I bog. If I can hook like that, I'll be close to that time.

 

Stock block COULD be true, this is also a possible ticking time bomb. I have helped tune 300-400hp Nissan 4-cyl on stock block with a few bearing failures and holes in pistons here and there. Then there is out "unbreakable" motor which made 545hp at the wheels on the same Nissan 4-cyl. The car was run very hard at many runs at the drag strip and on the dyno and abused very much. When driveline parts started breaking, we pulled the motor and sold the chassis and went onto the next project. We also pulled the head to see the condition of the pistons and the motor was amazingly clean and still within factory OEM clearances!

Sometimes people get luck and has the "perfect" setup to where the motor will last a very long time, but this is a rare case. Especially on factory NA motors.

 

He has no reason to lie...he's not out street racing and trying to HUSTLE people. We and everyone who saw him run know how quick his car is so they only thing he would gain by lying about what's done to his motor is lame internet bragging rights.


What relevance to anything does this have?

Obviously you increase the chances of a motor failure when you add power. That doesn't mean that his motor under current state of tune will ever blow up...or even eventually blow up. You really have no idea, so the basic premise of your GUARANTEE that his stock motor won't last is purely ignorant. I'm not being naive at all...myself and many others on this forum have run over 400whp on a twin turbo setup on our cars and driven the **** out of them for countless miles with no problems at all. Hell, on the other side of the fence there are guys with built motors blowing up around here just like the stock motors. It's all about tuning, and you obviously haven't figured that out.

With regard to deonation, detonation will destroy ANY motor...built up or stock. No motor out there is immune to damage from detonation.

I'm sure that's exactly what SP engineering will tell me...right before they tell me about the motor build packages I can buy from THEM for THEIR PROFIT. I'm sorry..but until my stock set-up fails me or I want to make BIG power on this car I'm not even going to think about building the motor.


BTW...you're lil ol' 262whp civic is nothing to brag about...and you can quit swinging **** *** **** ** **** "Dr. Charles" dude.

 

I thought we were passed this, stop trying to justify that it is stock. It is possible, than again like I posted before it wont last long

Tuning is a major factor of a motor lasting, it just means you have a perfect air fuel ratio. But other small factors also play an important role, and one is the strength of the internals. Those internals were not meant to be FI PERIOD. So even if you have a perfect "tune" its just a ticking time bomb drumma022 said. He understands. Your def a newbie to this to believe that motor will last years! Every setup is different so to compare 1 guys unbreakeable engine to another is stupid. Believe what you want to believe but he is hanging on a fine line and I will stay tuned for the update on this forum to tell you "I TOLD YOU SO!" when his engine pops.

THANK YOU!! your finally seeing what I am talking about, your *** ** ***** afterall. Although your statement is true, I do have to add something. A built motor will have a higher tolerance over detonation over a stock motor. That's what I been trying to tell you. That guy is living on the edge, and say he puts 93octane but gets bad gas and he detonates and BOOM the engine pops. If it were built the chances of bad gas ruining the motor are a lot less because their is more room hence lower compression pistons, forged etc...

When did I brag about my civic? I said Dr Charles tuned my car, dude you couldn't afford a Dyno Tune from him, not to mention he wouldn't even give you the time of day. And did you even bother reading the article? 262whp at (8psi) LOL!! that 8psi ran 12.72 at palmdale with a 3,000 feet of elevation and would walk over my 350z and most FI Z's any day. The car made 481hp and 312ft of torque at 21PSI and I will gladly post videos and dyno graphs and pictures to make you look like a ********. I sold the motor to a friend of mine, he still owns the car and ran 10.2 on the 1/4 mile. Not bad for a daily driver "civic" I may be swinging on Dr. Charles **** but at least im not ****** the owner of this G35's ****
And here is a google link of DR Charles, who built and drives the fastest all motor import.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...k+2+Dr+Charles

 

You in your great wisdom deem it so.

If you think that AFR is all there is to tuning then you sir are a moron. There's A LOT more to tuning that a simple air to fuel ratio on a dyno pull.

Yes...but in cases where tuning is good they hold up great. There are MANY MANY motors out there that start out N/A and handle boost with fantastic reliability. Ever hear of "overengineering"?

First you said that not being able to handle even light detonation will be the end of this guys' motor...now you're saying that tuning won't play a part at all and the internals just plain can't take the power. I'm calling you out..you don't know cr@p about the VQ motor and you have absolutely no idea how much power a well tuned VQ can reliably and consistantly make. So stop sitting here with your elitest attitude about a motor that you know basically nothing about. As for drumma022..he has tuned FOUR CYLINDER Nissan motors...not the VQ. End of story there.

I've been around the VQ engine series since the late 90s and have seen and even myself had forced induction added to stock VQs...and across the board I have seen amazing reliability. The only failures that I've seen were due to improper install or tuning. Hell, pretty much all of the 350Zs that have their stock motors blow do so at MUCH lower power level than this guy or I or many others are making.

Stop spouting off like a hard@ss on a subject which you have very little knowledge.

Now you are back to detonation blowing up the motor...why don't you decide which one it is...detonation...or weak internals eventually giving way. Go ahead...I don't care which one you decide because either way you're full of cr@p.

If you're getting severe enough detonation to blow up a stock motor..chances are it's severe enough to damage even a built motor. Explain to me why guys on here with BUILT motors are blowing up if they are so much more resistant to detonation.

You posted a freaking article out of some lame @ss faptastic import TOONER magazine with you sorry little civic. And if that wasn't enough, this whole last paragraph I quoted was the biggest internet **** swinging fest that I've seen in a long time. Compensating for something?

If you'll notice, I don't need to sit here and brag about my car to make myself feel better. So keep on cooking there...and don't forget about your date with DR Charles later...wouldn't want to dissapoint him. He might not be willing to show you the difference between your a$$ and your head again.

You know what the whole original problem was with you? You couldn't just give props to a video of a quick G35 coupe...you had to stick your nose in an stir the pot for no reason at all. Go back to honda-tech....and take that g@y little dragon hood graphic with you.

 

Seems like a case of ***** *** hater to me.(Wicked4u2c)

 

Elighten me, OH MIGHTY ONE. Prove to me that "Tuning" isn't about acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine. So please answer my question HOT SHOT, what is tuning? Since you seem to know the answers including Dr. Charles showing me my *** instead of my head. You definitely talk from experience, is there something your not telling us Brigaymax?



Dude, tuning will only take you so far. Get over your whole "reliability" It doesn't exist. Your just fooling yourself. Any tuner will tell you that. So your telling me a turbocharged 350z is as reliable as a "stock" Z? If you answered yes, than everyone should modify their cars because obviously the reliability wont be affected. Why do you think some dealerships VOID warranty's with just simple bolt-ons? Geez, let me guess because its as reliable as stock. Uhhhh... NO!! Nothing will be as reliable as stock, specially FI. Sure some motors are very strong but only time will tell. And im willing to bet money that Infinity wont last 50K miles Turbocharged. Statistics speak louder than words my friend, show me proof.


[QUOTE=BriGuyMax]First you said that not being able to handle even light detonation will be the end of this guys' motor...now you're saying that tuning won't play a part at all and the internals just plain can't take the power. I'm calling you out..you don't know cr@p about the VQ motor and you have absolutely no idea how much power a well tuned VQ can reliably and consistantly make. So stop sitting here with your elitest attitude about a motor that you know basically nothing about. As for drumma022..he has tuned FOUR CYLINDER Nissan motors...not the VQ. End of story there.[\QUOTE]

You just don't know how to read, go back to high school. At the power this guy is making, yes the sligthest error will jepordize his engine. The more power he makes the more his internals are taking a toll do you not agree? VQ motors are reliable, but they aren't ubreakable. Lets do a number count how many succesfull "stock" motors are here VS blown engines. Than you will see that your VQ isn't that powerful. Heck, Greddy turbochargers blew many engines with their default map. And some motors are still runing and HARD! Why is that? How can Greddy sell turbo kits with the same map from the E-manage and blow some motors which were untouched from tuning and yet others had no problem and their motors are super strong and were also untouched and used the factory default map from GReddy? Every MOTOR IS DIFFERENT, some motors are blessed and are super strong, than you have those motors that are weak. Hence a car that is a LEMON, not 2 cars a like so stop hyping that ALL VQ engines are unbreakable.


Uh what's your point? Because You personally have seen GREAT results it must be bullet proof engine? Ive seen good and bad, check out the Maxima boards and see how many BLOWN engines they have. Stop justifying because my mom and dad have a turbo 350z and my uncle and grandma and Ive seen miracles.. BLAGH BLAGH BLAGH do a search my friend that should shut you up. C-mon dude I owned a 350z once, I love the damn Car if anything I should be praising it, but I just hate it when people make it sound like its untouchable, get off your cloud 9 dude.


This one is easy to explain, its the stupid shop that built the car. You get what you pay for my friend. Take your Z to get built by a reputable shop like SP Engineering and you wont see that happening. Look at SkidaZZle's car, did his engine pop? Why because it was built by JOTECH. Company's like these are reputable and the chances of a blown engine are very slim. Yes, they charge CRAZY prices, but that's because they can.




Brigaymax, on a serious note and im not doing this to dis you but stop with your gay stuff because during this whole time you keep insinuating gay comments. Seriousyl, why do you care? ON second thought keep that comment to yourself. Better take my picture down, dont want someone ************ to it. On another note, just word of advice never get into politics son, cause you suck at arguing.

 

Wicked4u2c does have a lot of truth to what he is saying, any type of forced induction to any car is a major stress and can blow up at anytime. Nothing is as reliable as stock.

 

I get a kick out of this thread...Normally people raise the BS flag if someone is telling you their running a built motor, in this case your calling BS that his motor is stock..WTF...If the guy did not post a video to prove it you would call bs also...This guy is legit, and I know it because were running an APS powered "STOCK" motor with 68,000 miles on it, daily driven at 11.60's all day long...Give the guy props for hitting mid 11's instead of calling BS on him for nothing..And by the way, he seemed to be on DR's and got some tire spin, if he upgrades to some MT ET streets he is good for another 3-4 tenths..

 

Dude, are you ignorant too? Man, people need to go back to school seriously. No wonder America is so ********up because people can't even understand a simple sentence. Here, let me explain it to you since you obviously didn't understand either, or else you wouldn't have posted that comment. Read my very first post, I never said this guy is not running a stock motor. GO READ IT! This is what I said.

"I doubt those are stock internals, anybody can have a fully built motor and say its stock, their is no way to prove it. But if it does have "stock internals" I can gurantee it wont last long."

Having a doubt is different than saying he doesn't have a stock motor. I never said "HE IS RUNNING A BUILT MOTOR" Look up "doubt" in the dictonary. Having a "doubt" Its a neutral statement, meaning I kinda believe but I don't believe. I later followed with my statement that if he did have a stock motor it wasn't going to last very long (giving him the benefit of the doubt). So stop trying to come in here like "I raised a BS FLAG" because I didn't. Just because I wasn't like everyone else "Wow, OH MY GOD, GEEZ, THAT IS AMAZING" I never disrespected the owner of the G nor did I praise him either. So don't come up here stiring more $hit and try and make it seem like I wasn't talking all this madness.