Piggy back options for the HR
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Piggy back options for the HR
I know this has been asked *to an extent.* So I encourage you to put down the search banners - I did.
What I've found is that the HKS F-CON Pro is the only tuning option outside of reflash currently available for the HR's.
My question is simple - is it a compatibility issue between new sensors/DME controls on the HR, or is it simply no-one has wired a Utec, e-manage (blue or ultimate), etc. into the car.
I'm asking because it would be nice to have an NA tune on the car, and the gains from a car specific tune make it worth it to me to wire something in (after seeing technosquares gains).
I would probably get the reflash from them (for throttle response) then fine tune from the piggy back, also giving myself the option of tuning for nitrous of FI if I ever take that route.
Has anyone tried to get another piggy back to work unsuccessfully, or is there any reason I couldn't buy a utec/e-manage/etc. and get it to work on my car?
What I've found is that the HKS F-CON Pro is the only tuning option outside of reflash currently available for the HR's.
My question is simple - is it a compatibility issue between new sensors/DME controls on the HR, or is it simply no-one has wired a Utec, e-manage (blue or ultimate), etc. into the car.
I'm asking because it would be nice to have an NA tune on the car, and the gains from a car specific tune make it worth it to me to wire something in (after seeing technosquares gains).
I would probably get the reflash from them (for throttle response) then fine tune from the piggy back, also giving myself the option of tuning for nitrous of FI if I ever take that route.
Has anyone tried to get another piggy back to work unsuccessfully, or is there any reason I couldn't buy a utec/e-manage/etc. and get it to work on my car?
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Originally Posted by hawaiianZ
haltech is developing one i think.
I am going to call around in a couple weeks and if I hear nothing discouraging once I get my pickup on the road this will be my project (to get the Z running a tune off a piggyback).
Once thats done I can throw a nitrous kit on and see what the car will run
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I think Forged posted something about this a while ago, hate to say it but search. There was a thread about a engine tear down and Forged peeps were saying something about this.
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Thanks, I actually hadn't seen that.
https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...81&postcount=1
Bullet #8. It still leaves my question of "has anyone tried it yet." But if I can pick a Utec up and wire it in this summer that would be great .
https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...81&postcount=1
Bullet #8. It still leaves my question of "has anyone tried it yet." But if I can pick a Utec up and wire it in this summer that would be great .
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Originally Posted by toples z
why this summer? do it now and give us an update. lol
Graduate May 2
Hopeful house closing May 5
New Job May 16
Fixed pickup and on the road May 30
So I can't really put the car in the garage and under the knife until then.
The actual wiring will be quite a nightmare I'm sure so I want to take my time. It also gives Greddy 2 more months to put the harness together if they are going to release one for the e-manage before their turbo kit. Still rather have the utec though.
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Originally Posted by Peak350
My schedule right now:
Graduate May 2
Hopeful house closing May 5
New Job May 16
Fixed pickup and on the road May 30
So I can't really put the car in the garage and under the knife until then.
The actual wiring will be quite a nightmare I'm sure so I want to take my time. It also gives Greddy 2 more months to put the harness together if they are going to release one for the e-manage before their turbo kit. Still rather have the utec though.
Graduate May 2
Hopeful house closing May 5
New Job May 16
Fixed pickup and on the road May 30
So I can't really put the car in the garage and under the knife until then.
The actual wiring will be quite a nightmare I'm sure so I want to take my time. It also gives Greddy 2 more months to put the harness together if they are going to release one for the e-manage before their turbo kit. Still rather have the utec though.
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Originally Posted by shadykilla717
See that makes sense.. Wouldn't you think greddy would have some kinda of emange released before or with their turbo?? They wouldn't put out the turbo before the emanage. That be dumb. So I guess expect it at the turbo's release date the latest??
edit - I'm noticing that almost nothing short of 2 grand is controlling the valve timing, is this to be expected? Has no-one seen much gain (esp. boosted) from playing with the valve timing on the Z?
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Originally Posted by Peak350
I figure they will. Before buying anything I'd be making a few contacts, but I like actually having a half semblance of what I'm talking about when I ask a tuner or tuning company a question so I don't look completely retarded.
edit - I'm noticing that almost nothing short of 2 grand is controlling the valve timing, is this to be expected? Has no-one seen much gain (esp. boosted) from playing with the valve timing on the Z?
edit - I'm noticing that almost nothing short of 2 grand is controlling the valve timing, is this to be expected? Has no-one seen much gain (esp. boosted) from playing with the valve timing on the Z?
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Originally Posted by SpoilsofWar
Probably because they are a third of the price? I really cant think of any other reason.
The widespread availability and high end options for a low cost is a perk.
The valve timing is the only drawback to me, I'd rather buy a unit capable of wiring as a piggyback AND of controlling the valve timing.
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I wonder if you could make a power enterprise camcon work for valve timing from either a toyota or scooby? I don't have the Z shop manual, so I could not even begin to take this project on...
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Originally Posted by JOEGYVER
I wonder if you could make a power enterprise camcon work for valve timing from either a toyota or scooby? I don't have the Z shop manual, so I could not even begin to take this project on...
Dunno how long it will stay up, but the password is listed and it seems complete
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From their site "it can be applied to V-engines by use of two CAMCONs, one on each bank."
I dunno about using 2 of them. There is always the v-manage coupled with either an e-manage ultimate, utec, or fcon-pro.
Most people hadn't been running a v-manage on earlier Z's because of reflash tuning availability. I'd personally rather run the v-manage given instant changes...
I dunno about using 2 of them. There is always the v-manage coupled with either an e-manage ultimate, utec, or fcon-pro.
Most people hadn't been running a v-manage on earlier Z's because of reflash tuning availability. I'd personally rather run the v-manage given instant changes...
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Originally Posted by JOEGYVER
download in progress, thanks! I am unfamiliar with the V manage, I'll read up on it tonight on mohdparts links tonight. I think I am done doing the waiting game...