Toyo T1-R vs T1-S, and SF Winning
06-21-2005, 07:38 AM
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the formula is rim diameter + sidewall x2..so for a 255/35/19 tire...
=19" + (255mm*.35) x2
=19" + (~3.51") x2
~= 26.03"
Edit: oh yea, thats for all the info JET... you're awesome
=19" + (255mm*.35) x2
=19" + (~3.51") x2
~= 26.03"
Edit: oh yea, thats for all the info JET... you're awesome
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06-21-2005, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ncparamedic
Jet is soooo smart. I knew there was a mathmatical way of saying it but I wasnt for sure. Thanks jet. You also helped me realize that maybe I need to stick with the 255/275 so my vdc does mess up. I dont mean to sound dumb but how are you calculating or converting the diameter of the wheels? What is the formula. I understand the staggered thinking from f/r 20mm spacing but what about the other math you did. Thanks again.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...foTireMath.jsp
You're Welcome
Respect
JET
06-23-2005, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
So.....what did you decide 
In terms of wheels, +19/+29. In terms of tires--still not sure...haha. I would like to go with the more appropriate setup. The most common setup is 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. Others choose 255/35/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. The recommendation I seem to be getting here is 255/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear, which is a combination of the 2.
So now I have THREE options!
And to think...I thought after I chose my offsets, I would be set! 
Which combination did you go with? I'm guessing 245/275 since the T1-S isn't available in the 285. Also, when do you get your rims?
06-23-2005, 10:17 PM
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I still dont have them yet amit... I ordered the +17/+19 with 245/275...looks good to me.
The wheels were suppossed to be here by now...freaking I got a bs speeding ticket (45 in a 35) right in front of the campus so I'm kinda mad haha.. Its my first ticket ever so yeah.
Anywho, order them already! It takes forever for them to get here. Still deciding if I'll put the kit on or buy more performance mods.
ravi
The wheels were suppossed to be here by now...freaking I got a bs speeding ticket (45 in a 35) right in front of the campus so I'm kinda mad haha.. Its my first ticket ever so yeah.
Anywho, order them already! It takes forever for them to get here. Still deciding if I'll put the kit on or buy more performance mods.
ravi
07-29-2005, 09:40 PM
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so you could run 255/35/19 up front on a 8.5" wheel without rubbing with a 22+ offset and still be fine with vdc and understeer...
you really think that 1/10 of an inch will throw off vdc?
you really think that 1/10 of an inch will throw off vdc?
08-16-2005, 09:33 AM
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So..in the soap opera of my volk purchase, I bought them off of a guy on another forum
Anyway, he informed me that the fronts have spacers (+19) but the rears (+17) did not. I asked him if he meant the hubcentric rings, but he said no, he meant they had spacers. This is news to me. I thought no spacers are required, and I dont even have brembos.
ravi
Anyway, he informed me that the fronts have spacers (+19) but the rears (+17) did not. I asked him if he meant the hubcentric rings, but he said no, he meant they had spacers. This is news to me. I thought no spacers are required, and I dont even have brembos.
ravi
08-16-2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
So..in the soap opera of my volk purchase, I bought them off of a guy on another forum
Anyway, he informed me that the fronts have spacers (+19) but the rears (+17) did not. I asked him if he meant the hubcentric rings, but he said no, he meant they had spacers. This is news to me. I thought no spacers are required, and I dont even have brembos.
ravi
Anyway, he informed me that the fronts have spacers (+19) but the rears (+17) did not. I asked him if he meant the hubcentric rings, but he said no, he meant they had spacers. This is news to me. I thought no spacers are required, and I dont even have brembos.
ravi
Were you able to cancel your order and receive a 100% refund from your vendor? How much did you pay? Are they new/used?
Damn, I got so many questions, but I'm gonna hold off until you put them on!
Mine *SHOULD* be here by tomorrow, so I was going to get them on this Saturday. But that's pending that the shipment ever arrives...Looking forward to your pix.
08-16-2005, 11:07 AM
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Thats crazy, i was hoping to have mine on by this weekend as well! Hahah, I bought the complete setup front and rear, and cancelled my order with the vendor. I got sick of the wait and saved a CRAP load of money ahha.
Anyway, whats the status on yours? I'm making an appointment for probably friday to get the fenders rolled.
ravi
Anyway, whats the status on yours? I'm making an appointment for probably friday to get the fenders rolled.
ravi
08-16-2005, 12:00 PM
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I love my Toyos. I used to run T1-S's on my Celi and they were great now I have T1-R's on my Z and they are fantastic. They hook up well and handle great. I can only recommend them
08-16-2005, 12:08 PM
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Good stuff! Yeah, I'm just hoping they come in tomorrow as scheduled, but I'm betting there's going to be some kind of delay, so I probably won't be able to get them on this weekend 
mrtomcat: how would you rate the new T1R's? It seems like some people weren't satisifed with them. What sizes are you running and how are they compared to the stockers?
mrtomcat: how would you rate the new T1R's? It seems like some people weren't satisifed with them. What sizes are you running and how are they compared to the stockers?
08-16-2005, 12:51 PM
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i have been running the T1-R's for about three months now, and i really want to like them...but i don't.
they look great, they are quieter than the T1-S, and they ride nice, but i feel like they don't have the same grip as the T1-S's. i think i will be going with the KDW II's next time.
if you don't really push your car, then this tire is great. if you are looking for maximum grip, i would look somewhere else.
Chad
they look great, they are quieter than the T1-S, and they ride nice, but i feel like they don't have the same grip as the T1-S's. i think i will be going with the KDW II's next time.
if you don't really push your car, then this tire is great. if you are looking for maximum grip, i would look somewhere else.
Chad
08-16-2005, 01:05 PM
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I've been running T1 Rs for about 2000 miles now & they work fine. Less noise & smoother ride than OEM tires. The Toyos handle just fine but I don't drive at the limits so can't compare ultimate grip vs other tires.
As an aside, below is a link describing the T1 Rs. It is a PR piece but the article does describe the changes from the T1 Ss.
http://www.tirereview.com/?type=art&id=3276
As an aside, below is a link describing the T1 Rs. It is a PR piece but the article does describe the changes from the T1 Ss.
http://www.tirereview.com/?type=art&id=3276
08-16-2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BhashaZ
Good stuff! Yeah, I'm just hoping they come in tomorrow as scheduled, but I'm betting there's going to be some kind of delay, so I probably won't be able to get them on this weekend
mrtomcat: how would you rate the new T1R's? It seems like some people weren't satisifed with them. What sizes are you running and how are they compared to the stockers?
mrtomcat: how would you rate the new T1R's? It seems like some people weren't satisifed with them. What sizes are you running and how are they compared to the stockers?
08-16-2005, 10:38 PM
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BashaZ,
Take the advice from Protocav above .. I know no one that pushes thier car harder than he does on the street ... and his is kind of at a loss on these tires. I thoroughly considered them, but after not being able to find positive reviews from extreme driving ... I decided on the GS-D3 goodyears (kinda being cheap at the time too) and I ended up just as unhappy as him ... too much sideway flex and not enough all out grip.
My next set of tires will be Mich PS2 .. abliet 1.5x the cost .. I have yet to hear anything at all bad about these other than the treadware ... but hey, nothing is perfect
Take the advice from Protocav above .. I know no one that pushes thier car harder than he does on the street ... and his is kind of at a loss on these tires. I thoroughly considered them, but after not being able to find positive reviews from extreme driving ... I decided on the GS-D3 goodyears (kinda being cheap at the time too) and I ended up just as unhappy as him ... too much sideway flex and not enough all out grip.
My next set of tires will be Mich PS2 .. abliet 1.5x the cost .. I have yet to hear anything at all bad about these other than the treadware ... but hey, nothing is perfect
08-16-2005, 11:00 PM
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Ok. Just so that I am straight on this as well and reading the post correctly. Since I ordered the 19x9.5F and 19x10.5R Volk SF Challenge, I should be running the below tire configuration.
Fronts: 255/35/19
Rears: 275/35/19
Tires: BF Goodrich KDW2
Stock height
I would not have to do any shaving or rolling of the fenders with this setup correct? If someone can help me to confirm this, I will call F1 motorports right away and change my tire setup. Ordered 245/35/19 for the front tires from what I read in this forum. Thanks in advance.
Fronts: 255/35/19
Rears: 275/35/19
Tires: BF Goodrich KDW2
Stock height
I would not have to do any shaving or rolling of the fenders with this setup correct? If someone can help me to confirm this, I will call F1 motorports right away and change my tire setup. Ordered 245/35/19 for the front tires from what I read in this forum. Thanks in advance.
08-16-2005, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
BashaZ,
Take the advice from Protocav above .. I know no one that pushes thier car harder than he does on the street ... and his is kind of at a loss on these tires. I thoroughly considered them, but after not being able to find positive reviews from extreme driving ... I decided on the GS-D3 goodyears (kinda being cheap at the time too) and I ended up just as unhappy as him ... too much sideway flex and not enough all out grip.
My next set of tires will be Mich PS2 .. abliet 1.5x the cost .. I have yet to hear anything at all bad about these other than the treadware ... but hey, nothing is perfect
Take the advice from Protocav above .. I know no one that pushes thier car harder than he does on the street ... and his is kind of at a loss on these tires. I thoroughly considered them, but after not being able to find positive reviews from extreme driving ... I decided on the GS-D3 goodyears (kinda being cheap at the time too) and I ended up just as unhappy as him ... too much sideway flex and not enough all out grip.
My next set of tires will be Mich PS2 .. abliet 1.5x the cost .. I have yet to hear anything at all bad about these other than the treadware ... but hey, nothing is perfect
).Anyways, I can always change my mind since I still don't have my wheels yet. Most likely I will just stick with them though.
08-16-2005, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Faizei
Ok. Just so that I am straight on this as well and reading the post correctly. Since I ordered the 19x9.5F and 19x10.5R Volk SF Challenge, I should be running the below tire configuration.
Fronts: 255/35/19
Rears: 275/35/19
Tires: BF Goodrich KDW2
Stock height
I would not have to do any shaving or rolling of the fenders with this setup correct? If someone can help me to confirm this, I will call F1 motorports right away and change my tire setup. Ordered 245/35/19 for the front tires from what I read in this forum. Thanks in advance.
Fronts: 255/35/19
Rears: 275/35/19
Tires: BF Goodrich KDW2
Stock height
I would not have to do any shaving or rolling of the fenders with this setup correct? If someone can help me to confirm this, I will call F1 motorports right away and change my tire setup. Ordered 245/35/19 for the front tires from what I read in this forum. Thanks in advance.