TE37 18x9.5 +12 offset...
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Finally found a picture of a 18x9.5 +12 TE37, for those who want to see the concavity...
http://mr2trader.com/get_image.php?popupimage=833
http://mr2trader.com/get_image.php?popupimage=833
the jic 350z used to wear 18x9.5 and 18x10.5 te-37s
from my experience, i have seen a 18x10 with a -7 offset fit on stock rolled/cut fenders with a 265/40.
from my experience, i have seen a 18x10 with a -7 offset fit on stock rolled/cut fenders with a 265/40.
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
from my experience, i have seen a 18x10 with a -7 offset fit on stock rolled/cut fenders with a 265/40.
Originally Posted by 002-M-P
Are you sure about that? That would stick out 62mm more than stock, thats over 2 inches further. I just can't see that being possible on the stock Z fenders, rolled or not.
Originally Posted by 002-M-P
Are you sure about that? That would stick out 62mm more than stock, thats over 2 inches further. I just can't see that being possible on the stock Z fenders, rolled or not.
as you can see, 18x10 -7 come with alot of lip...
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wow thats just nuts. it like bows back in for like 8" of lip, thats just crazy looking.
But back on topic. I am still jumping between the 275/40 (Eagle F1) and the 285/40 (KDW-2) idea. I know fenders are going to be rolled with either and I really want to run some BFG's. Help me out in my decision...
But back on topic. I am still jumping between the 275/40 (Eagle F1) and the 285/40 (KDW-2) idea. I know fenders are going to be rolled with either and I really want to run some BFG's. Help me out in my decision...
http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/setup.html
you should get these, the black lmgt4 +12mm offset
can you rehost the volk TE37 with -7mm offset, its not loading
you should get these, the black lmgt4 +12mm offset
can you rehost the volk TE37 with -7mm offset, its not loading
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Originally Posted by NiSmO D1X
http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/setup.html
you should get these, the black lmgt4 +12mm offset
can you rehost the volk TE37 with -7mm offset, its not loading
you should get these, the black lmgt4 +12mm offset
can you rehost the volk TE37 with -7mm offset, its not loading
The pic wasn't of TE37's with -7mm offset, it was some other wheel, but that lip was incredible. It had to be 3/4 of the rim width.
I'm also concered about the offset question. My wife has just cleared me to take part in Z1's Work Emotion CR Group Buy (All it cost me was buying her a pair of new Manolo Blahnik's $1100+ shoes). I've been trying to decide if I want to go with the 18x9.5 rears in a +20 or +12. Z1 currently has the +20's on their show car but after hearing everyone on this forum talking about the +12's fitting without rubbing I've been thinking about it more and more.
So far my suspension is stock on my 05 Z. I dont know if any shops in the area that can roll my fenders and I'm really not sure I want to have that done. Cutting is out of the question. I'm planning on getting the RSR Ti2000 lowering springs in the future.
Now... All I need is the FACTS. None of that "My brother's friends, sister's, cuzins.... Junk." Just the facts. Will the +12 work without rubbing or wont it? And what brand and size tires should I be planning to buy?
I know all you guys are smart enough to find answers, I'm just looking for the RIGHT answer.
So far my suspension is stock on my 05 Z. I dont know if any shops in the area that can roll my fenders and I'm really not sure I want to have that done. Cutting is out of the question. I'm planning on getting the RSR Ti2000 lowering springs in the future.
Now... All I need is the FACTS. None of that "My brother's friends, sister's, cuzins.... Junk." Just the facts. Will the +12 work without rubbing or wont it? And what brand and size tires should I be planning to buy?
I know all you guys are smart enough to find answers, I'm just looking for the RIGHT answer.
on a stock height car with a skinnier rear tire (265/40/18, or 275/40/18 that runs on the narrower side, yes it should work ok. If the car is lowered, or if lowering is planned, stay away from the +12.
My car is NOT a show car. It is driven nearly every day, hence why compromise was not something I was willing to live with. As I have said, on 275/40/18 T1S, I had zero rubbing with car lowered around 2 inches. With the same size rear tire in a Potenza S03, it rubbed constantly....no matter what rear camber I ran, and no matter what rideheight I dialed in.
As I have said many many times, your best bet is to visit the tire manufacturers sites and start looking for the physical dimensions of the tires you are considering. Every site I have ever seen lists the diameter, sidewall height, width, and usually weight. Forget about falling into the "I am running 275, I am running 285') - it is all utter BS; akin to saying "I am running 25 psi of boost", without saying what turbo is making that boost. The tire size is useless - it is all about contact patch. There are 265's as wide as some 275's, and 275's as wide as some 295's - spend 30 minutes to look the info up and you'll end up pleased.
As an aside, those huge negative offsets are great for looks, but that's it. Unless you accompany it with the right width, you end up pushing the rear wheels way out, which means increased load on the studs, on the axles, on the bearings, on the rear diff. Figuring out proper wheel sizing is not a mystery - it is all very simple math - just depends on your goals
My car is NOT a show car. It is driven nearly every day, hence why compromise was not something I was willing to live with. As I have said, on 275/40/18 T1S, I had zero rubbing with car lowered around 2 inches. With the same size rear tire in a Potenza S03, it rubbed constantly....no matter what rear camber I ran, and no matter what rideheight I dialed in.
As I have said many many times, your best bet is to visit the tire manufacturers sites and start looking for the physical dimensions of the tires you are considering. Every site I have ever seen lists the diameter, sidewall height, width, and usually weight. Forget about falling into the "I am running 275, I am running 285') - it is all utter BS; akin to saying "I am running 25 psi of boost", without saying what turbo is making that boost. The tire size is useless - it is all about contact patch. There are 265's as wide as some 275's, and 275's as wide as some 295's - spend 30 minutes to look the info up and you'll end up pleased.
As an aside, those huge negative offsets are great for looks, but that's it. Unless you accompany it with the right width, you end up pushing the rear wheels way out, which means increased load on the studs, on the axles, on the bearings, on the rear diff. Figuring out proper wheel sizing is not a mystery - it is all very simple math - just depends on your goals
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on a stock height car with a skinnier rear tire (265/40/18, or 275/40/18 that runs on the narrower side, yes it should work ok. If the car is lowered, or if lowering is planned, stay away from the +12.
My car is NOT a show car. It is driven nearly every day, hence why compromise was not something I was willing to live with. As I have said, on 275/40/18 T1S, I had zero rubbing with car lowered around 2 inches. With the same size rear tire in a Potenza S03, it rubbed constantly....no matter what rear camber I ran, and no matter what rideheight I dialed in.
As I have said many many times, your best bet is to visit the tire manufacturers sites and start looking for the physical dimensions of the tires you are considering. Every site I have ever seen lists the diameter, sidewall height, width, and usually weight. Forget about falling into the "I am running 275, I am running 285') - it is all utter BS; akin to saying "I am running 25 psi of boost", without saying what turbo is making that boost. The tire size is useless - it is all about contact patch. There are 265's as wide as some 275's, and 275's as wide as some 295's - spend 30 minutes to look the info up and you'll end up pleased.
As an aside, those huge negative offsets are great for looks, but that's it. Unless you accompany it with the right width, you end up pushing the rear wheels way out, which means increased load on the studs, on the axles, on the bearings, on the rear diff. Figuring out proper wheel sizing is not a mystery - it is all very simple math - just depends on your goals
My car is NOT a show car. It is driven nearly every day, hence why compromise was not something I was willing to live with. As I have said, on 275/40/18 T1S, I had zero rubbing with car lowered around 2 inches. With the same size rear tire in a Potenza S03, it rubbed constantly....no matter what rear camber I ran, and no matter what rideheight I dialed in.
As I have said many many times, your best bet is to visit the tire manufacturers sites and start looking for the physical dimensions of the tires you are considering. Every site I have ever seen lists the diameter, sidewall height, width, and usually weight. Forget about falling into the "I am running 275, I am running 285') - it is all utter BS; akin to saying "I am running 25 psi of boost", without saying what turbo is making that boost. The tire size is useless - it is all about contact patch. There are 265's as wide as some 275's, and 275's as wide as some 295's - spend 30 minutes to look the info up and you'll end up pleased.
As an aside, those huge negative offsets are great for looks, but that's it. Unless you accompany it with the right width, you end up pushing the rear wheels way out, which means increased load on the studs, on the axles, on the bearings, on the rear diff. Figuring out proper wheel sizing is not a mystery - it is all very simple math - just depends on your goals
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just something else to mention in case it got lost in that post.
I know for a fact that a 275/40/18 T1S will not rub when mounted on this specific wheel, whether the car is stock height or lowered. I also know a Potenza S03 will rub at 275/40/18 will rub - especially with a passenger in the car (when my brother used to go in the car before we rolled the fenders it rubbed badly).
What I would suggest doing is making the Toyo website and the Bridgestone websites your first stop. Find out the exact dimensions on each of those 2 tires. From there, compare them to other tires you are considering.
I know for a fact that a 275/40/18 T1S will not rub when mounted on this specific wheel, whether the car is stock height or lowered. I also know a Potenza S03 will rub at 275/40/18 will rub - especially with a passenger in the car (when my brother used to go in the car before we rolled the fenders it rubbed badly).
What I would suggest doing is making the Toyo website and the Bridgestone websites your first stop. Find out the exact dimensions on each of those 2 tires. From there, compare them to other tires you are considering.
ding ding ding....seems small, but that .2 inches makes a huge difference in clearance. I was able to dial camber down to -1.5 out back with the Toyo's and never ever ever rub. With the S03, it rubbed from the second I installed them, and dialing in as much as 4 degrees camber did not help.
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Yea, the BFG KDW-2 295's I now plan on running have a section width of 11.9" which is about what the rest of the tires in the 295/35-18 class are, except for the two tires at 11.7".
the 9.5 +12 will fit no problem at the rear... it's actually a better fit for the front. You should not need to roll your fender as long as your car is lowered at least 3/4" (which 99% of springs do) and are running around 1.75 or more negative camber with a 275/40/18 tire.
just for reference the JIC car ran 9.5 +12 front with stock fenders and no rub with 265/35/18 front tires. rear is 10.5 +15 with 295/40/18 and again NO Rubbing but running pretty low with about -2.3 camber.
my car is the one posted above with 18x9 +5 front (equivalent to 9.5 +11 front) and 18x10 -7 rear. This setup requires rolling the rear fenders ALL The way flat and running the car LOW with -2.5 or more camber for absolutely no rub on 265/35/18 tires. I will be fitting 275/40/18 tires soon and don't expect to have to change anything, as I have good clearance even now.
and here are some old pics of some S13's running the 18x9 +12 wheel in white and the 17x9 +12 in bronze
just for reference the JIC car ran 9.5 +12 front with stock fenders and no rub with 265/35/18 front tires. rear is 10.5 +15 with 295/40/18 and again NO Rubbing but running pretty low with about -2.3 camber.
my car is the one posted above with 18x9 +5 front (equivalent to 9.5 +11 front) and 18x10 -7 rear. This setup requires rolling the rear fenders ALL The way flat and running the car LOW with -2.5 or more camber for absolutely no rub on 265/35/18 tires. I will be fitting 275/40/18 tires soon and don't expect to have to change anything, as I have good clearance even now.
and here are some old pics of some S13's running the 18x9 +12 wheel in white and the 17x9 +12 in bronze
Last edited by 03Z33; Nov 21, 2005 at 04:16 PM.
again quoting the tire size is useless - it is all about the specific tire
the JIC car might not rub but it also did not have rear fender lips...there is no way it could have. As low as my car is 9alot more than 3/4 inch), with even 4 degrees negative camber, it still rubbed horribly. Trust me, I spent a long time trying to get rid of it without having to resort to fender rolling but at the end of the day it was the only way to go
the JIC car might not rub but it also did not have rear fender lips...there is no way it could have. As low as my car is 9alot more than 3/4 inch), with even 4 degrees negative camber, it still rubbed horribly. Trust me, I spent a long time trying to get rid of it without having to resort to fender rolling but at the end of the day it was the only way to go
