Tire sizes: Does keeping them proportional matter?
Ok, lets just say I wanted to get a setup with a 19x9.0" front rim and a 19x10.5" rear rim.
Then let's say I wanted to run a 305/30/19 tire on the rear rim. What would be the best tire to run on the front?
Looking at the stock (base model), the total height from the ground for each wheel (((width x sidewall percentage) x2) + rim diameter) =
Stock
Front: 225/50/17 = 242
Rear: 235/50/17 = 252
The aftermarket setup I was thinking about looks like this:
Preferred setup
Front: 245/30/19 = 166
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Option 1
Front: 255/30/19 = 172
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Option 2
Front: 245/35/19 = 190.5
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Now the variation between the total height of the front and rear tires on the stock setup is only 10. The variation of the setup I was thinking about getting is rougly 40. Is this ok? Does it matter for any reason? I can adjust the suspension differently in the front and back with coilovers to make similar wheel well gaps, but does the different proportions matter for traction/performance/handling?
Option 1 above brings the difference closer to stock by 10 (difference becomes 30), and a 255 tire should easily fit on a 9" rim. However, option 2 above brings it back into the stock proportionality, but I have to deal with the different sidewall height percentages between the front and rear, and I don't know the effects of that (both if it will look good, and if it will handle well).
So, any thoughts........
Then let's say I wanted to run a 305/30/19 tire on the rear rim. What would be the best tire to run on the front?
Looking at the stock (base model), the total height from the ground for each wheel (((width x sidewall percentage) x2) + rim diameter) =
Stock
Front: 225/50/17 = 242
Rear: 235/50/17 = 252
The aftermarket setup I was thinking about looks like this:
Preferred setup
Front: 245/30/19 = 166
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Option 1
Front: 255/30/19 = 172
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Option 2
Front: 245/35/19 = 190.5
Rear: 305/30/19 = 202
Now the variation between the total height of the front and rear tires on the stock setup is only 10. The variation of the setup I was thinking about getting is rougly 40. Is this ok? Does it matter for any reason? I can adjust the suspension differently in the front and back with coilovers to make similar wheel well gaps, but does the different proportions matter for traction/performance/handling?
Option 1 above brings the difference closer to stock by 10 (difference becomes 30), and a 255 tire should easily fit on a 9" rim. However, option 2 above brings it back into the stock proportionality, but I have to deal with the different sidewall height percentages between the front and rear, and I don't know the effects of that (both if it will look good, and if it will handle well).
So, any thoughts........
Tire height matters. Both VDC and TCS are sensitive to tire height. As you mentioned, the OEM 17 inches set-up has a 10 mm difference between front and rear tires. Would I go 30 or 40 mm? Nope.
jcarp: The 245/35/19 matches the OEM difference. Running a 255/35/19 brings the front and rear heights to almost matching (197.5 + 202). That is closer then the -40 and -30 setups, but it does go in the other direction, being +5.5 over stock difference. So what advantage would this have over the 245/35/19 setup?
davidv: I have a base model so no VDC or TCS. I know proportionality matters for VDC and TCS, but since I don't have either, does it matter for any other reason? (Performance/handling/traction)?
davidv: I have a base model so no VDC or TCS. I know proportionality matters for VDC and TCS, but since I don't have either, does it matter for any other reason? (Performance/handling/traction)?
Last edited by 21112; Mar 24, 2006 at 08:32 AM.
Why does VDC care about tire height? Tire height will be more critical for F to R weight balancing (braking and acceleration), and your speedo.
My understanding that you must maintain your tire combo to have understeer, since VDC is programmed to react to this condition?
Or maybe I am way off base?
My understanding that you must maintain your tire combo to have understeer, since VDC is programmed to react to this condition?
Or maybe I am way off base?
I was told the speedometer isn't hooked into tire rotation, so changing tire sizes doesn't matter. I don't know where the speedo gets it's data from though. Is that true, or am I misinformed?
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
Why does VDC care about tire height? Tire height will be more critical for F to R weight balancing (braking and acceleration), and your speedo.
My understanding that you must maintain your tire combo to have understeer, since VDC is programmed to react to this condition?
Or maybe I am way off base?
My understanding that you must maintain your tire combo to have understeer, since VDC is programmed to react to this condition?
Or maybe I am way off base?
The computer expects to see the difference between the front wheels and rear wheels within a certain range. When you get outside that range, it can trigger either VDC or TCS.
BTW, there is also a G sensor (accelerometer) in the Z that comes into play with the computer and VDC.
Originally Posted by 21112
I was told the speedometer isn't hooked into tire rotation, so changing tire sizes doesn't matter. I don't know where the speedo gets it's data from though. Is that true, or am I misinformed?
Originally Posted by 21112
jcarp: The 245/35/19 matches the OEM difference. Running a 255/35/19 brings the front and rear heights to almost matching (197.5 + 202). That is closer then the -40 and -30 setups, but it does go in the other direction, being +5.5 over stock difference. So what advantage would this have over the 245/35/19 setup?
davidv: I have a base model so no VDC or TCS. I know proportionality matters for VDC and TCS, but since I don't have either, does it matter for any other reason? (Performance/handling/traction)?
davidv: I have a base model so no VDC or TCS. I know proportionality matters for VDC and TCS, but since I don't have either, does it matter for any other reason? (Performance/handling/traction)?
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