Why not use same tires front and rear?
I have a performance model 350Z (18"x8"). Is there a good reason not to buy four 245/45R18 tires? That would at least allow me to rotate the tires front-rear. What would this do to the handling?
Thanks,
Mika
Thanks,
Mika
It would make the car more likely to oversteer, but exactly how much more likely is difficult to determine. Since the Z already understeers, it may not really be a problem. In fact, I was toying with the idea of using the 245/45-18 all around, but in the end I will probably go with a 245/40-18 in front and a 255/45-18 in back.
If you are unsure, you can always do the old "swap tires on rims" side-to-side rotation. That way you can use different size front and rear tires, but just reverse their orientation on the rims so you can swap the wheels from one side to the other. The front to back rotation seems better though, because after 9000 miles my front tires are about 1/2 gone, while my rears are only about 1/8 gone.
-D'oh!
If you are unsure, you can always do the old "swap tires on rims" side-to-side rotation. That way you can use different size front and rear tires, but just reverse their orientation on the rims so you can swap the wheels from one side to the other. The front to back rotation seems better though, because after 9000 miles my front tires are about 1/2 gone, while my rears are only about 1/8 gone.
-D'oh!
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Originally posted by Apexi350z
Another quick question. Can you change just the front two or just the rear two since they are wearing out differently?
Thanks!
Another quick question. Can you change just the front two or just the rear two since they are wearing out differently?
Thanks!
There have been several other discussions on why you CANNOT go to just one size due to VDC. In short, VDC reads out the tire size differential and acts if the RPMs change. This could cause your 350Z to have drivability problems. Please do a search and I think you'll find more than my simplistic explanation.
Last edited by dkmura; Feb 4, 2003 at 09:44 AM.
Originally posted by dkmura
There have been several other discussions on why you CANNOT go to just one size due to VDC. In short, VDC reads out the size differential and acts if the RPMs change. This could cause your 350Z to have drivabiklity problems. Please do a search and I think you'll find more than my simplistic explanation.
There have been several other discussions on why you CANNOT go to just one size due to VDC. In short, VDC reads out the size differential and acts if the RPMs change. This could cause your 350Z to have drivabiklity problems. Please do a search and I think you'll find more than my simplistic explanation.
RWD! you want more patch for more power transfer!
you COULD use 4 same sized tires, but then you might as well have bought a FWD. ;P
in all seriousness, the backend would probably act more 'neutral' than say, understeer like D'Oh said. not as much, contact with ground as power is transfered. as for VDC, probably would kick in more often than not, since its noticing more lateral movement.
you COULD use 4 same sized tires, but then you might as well have bought a FWD. ;P
in all seriousness, the backend would probably act more 'neutral' than say, understeer like D'Oh said. not as much, contact with ground as power is transfered. as for VDC, probably would kick in more often than not, since its noticing more lateral movement.
Originally posted by mwaller
I have a performance model 350Z (18"x8"). Is there a good reason not to buy four 245/45R18 tires? That would at least allow me to rotate the tires front-rear. What would this do to the handling?
Thanks,
Mika
I have a performance model 350Z (18"x8"). Is there a good reason not to buy four 245/45R18 tires? That would at least allow me to rotate the tires front-rear. What would this do to the handling?
Thanks,
Mika
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facts:
VDC, ABS and stability control uses the measuements from the indivdual wheel speed sensors to operate the systems accordingly.
Tire rotation is 804 revs per mile in the front and 680 rear
when the rear tire is spinning at the same speed as the front the on-board computer sees it as the rear tires spinning and will react accordingly (apply brakes / reduce throttle)
base model doesn't have VDC but it will still affect ABS
basically the car was not designed for the same size or same diameter tire on all four corners
VDC, ABS and stability control uses the measuements from the indivdual wheel speed sensors to operate the systems accordingly.
Tire rotation is 804 revs per mile in the front and 680 rear
when the rear tire is spinning at the same speed as the front the on-board computer sees it as the rear tires spinning and will react accordingly (apply brakes / reduce throttle)
base model doesn't have VDC but it will still affect ABS
basically the car was not designed for the same size or same diameter tire on all four corners
Luke-
Thansk for your input.
Can you recommend any tire size combinations that would work safely on my Z's 18"x8" wheels if the OEM sizes are not available in the particular tire I want?
Thanks,
Mika
Thansk for your input.
Can you recommend any tire size combinations that would work safely on my Z's 18"x8" wheels if the OEM sizes are not available in the particular tire I want?
Thanks,
Mika
Originally posted by Luke@tirerack
facts:
VDC, ABS and stability control uses the measuements from the indivdual wheel speed sensors to operate the systems accordingly.
Tire rotation is 804 revs per mile in the front and 680 rear
when the rear tire is spinning at the same speed as the front the on-board computer sees it as the rear tires spinning and will react accordingly (apply brakes / reduce throttle)
base model doesn't have VDC but it will still affect ABS
basically the car was not designed for the same size or same diameter tire on all four corners
facts:
VDC, ABS and stability control uses the measuements from the indivdual wheel speed sensors to operate the systems accordingly.
Tire rotation is 804 revs per mile in the front and 680 rear
when the rear tire is spinning at the same speed as the front the on-board computer sees it as the rear tires spinning and will react accordingly (apply brakes / reduce throttle)
base model doesn't have VDC but it will still affect ABS
basically the car was not designed for the same size or same diameter tire on all four corners
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