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Old 09-10-2006, 02:31 PM
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Will i need to roll my back fenders if i go with 19X10.5 w/ 285/35 tires??? What about 275/35??
Old 09-10-2006, 02:42 PM
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Most will say if your stock height no you wont have to, I will say yes if your offset is agressive(which you didnt post). Buddy of mine ran 285/35 BFG's on +22 10.5" rims and rubbed on stock ride height. I rolled his fenders
Old 09-10-2006, 03:43 PM
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what offset do i need to keep that width, and 285/35 without rubbing??

i want to have something like this, im not ready now but when the time comes i know what to get. I just bought my 06 a week ago and already thinking what to add to it.

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Old 09-10-2006, 04:23 PM
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Thats a very agressive offset on that Z. Agressive IMO is +22-+20. Offset 101-a lower number means the wheel will stick out closer to the wheel well. So a +22 will sit 10mm further out than a +32, and give you the look yuo want as opposed to the wheel sitting further in like stock. You can run a 10.5" width on most any offset from +20 in. The look above is not a personal favorite for me, but you get that stretched tire look by running a slightly narrower than recommended tire for the size. On a 10.5" wheel, a 285-305mm will look great. Above is likely a narrow running 275 or 265 on a 10.5" or wider rim. Good luck to you, any Q's feel free to ask...
Old 09-10-2006, 06:30 PM
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so +22 is what i need. 19X10.5" with 285/35 will work fine w/o rubbing as long i stick to that offset.

Now the front im thinking 19X9.5, what offset, and what tire size???
Old 09-10-2006, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ilov350ZEE
so +22 is what i need. 19X10.5" with 285/35 will work fine w/o rubbing as long i stick to that offset.

Now the front im thinking 19X9.5, what offset, and what tire size???
That combo and offset WILL rub-I dont know how some people say it wont rub they must never take turns hard or drive on perfect roads. Like I said earlier friend of mine had serious rubbing issues with that offset/size on stock height and rubbed. For the front Id recommend a 255/35. Same offset.
Old 10-13-2006, 05:26 PM
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which do you guys recommond? Rolling the fenders or CUTTING them?
Old 10-13-2006, 05:52 PM
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i have bfg kdw2's 285/35/19's on Ruff Racing 9.5", i think +22 offsets, used as daily driver for 6 or 7 months, weather permitting, driven fairly hard on all types of road surfaces including heavily frost-heaved mountain highways at speed, never tracked, only rubbed twice, will definately rub if lowered. just my $.02 worth
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Thats a very agressive offset on that Z. Agressive IMO is +22-+20. Offset 101-a lower number means the wheel will stick out closer to the wheel well. So a +22 will sit 10mm further out than a +32, and give you the look yuo want as opposed to the wheel sitting further in like stock. You can run a 10.5" width on most any offset from +20 in. The look above is not a personal favorite for me, but you get that stretched tire look by running a slightly narrower than recommended tire for the size. On a 10.5" wheel, a 285-305mm will look great. Above is likely a narrow running 275 or 265 on a 10.5" or wider rim. Good luck to you, any Q's feel free to ask...
I couldnt help, but if you have a +22, it will sit 5mm more than a +32. Its the offset/2. But I agree, it will most likely rub if lowered more than half an inch. Im running 10 w/ a +18 offset, and if i was lowered more than an inch, my tire wouldn't even make it.
Old 10-13-2006, 09:58 PM
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I am running a 295/30 (26" diameter) on 19x10.5 with 24 offset and no rubbing.
I am actually switching to 305/30 (26.25" diameter)
Not lowered.
Old 10-14-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ilov350ZEE
Will i need to roll my back fenders if i go with 19X10.5 w/ 285/35 tires???
Depends on (in no particular order, as they all share equal importance)

1. the specific tire (not all tires of a given size are the same physical size.

2. how low your car is, and what your alignment specs are

3. Wheel offset

What about 275/35??
Same answer

As an example - my car has always been about 2 inches dropped front and rear - I always ran 245/40/18 and 275/40/18 tires on 18x8.5, 18x9.5 wheels +20 offset front and rear - with some tires I would rub horribly no matter how much camber I ran, even with only me in the car. With some other brand tires, I would never rub, even with a passenger. All the factors above will determine if it will or will not

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Old 10-14-2006, 03:46 PM
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Im running 285/30/19 +22 on a 10" rim, potenza's dropped on hotchkis spings with no rubbing at all
Old 10-14-2006, 04:14 PM
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run more camber and you will be fine
Old 10-14-2006, 04:42 PM
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I'm running 285/35/19" PS2s on 10½" +22 wheels and get a little rub on the outside if I go over big dips in the road. Not lowered BTW.
Old 10-14-2006, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Amiricanmade
which do you guys recommond? Rolling the fenders or CUTTING them?
PLUS ONE
Old 10-14-2006, 10:15 PM
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i cut my fenders(actually f1 motorsports did) with stock height and regular driving there was not an dire need but we did it just to be safe
20 x 10.5 et22 with 285/30/20 toyo t1-r's
although an argument could me made for either method, but i personally feel there is less change of outer fender damage with cutting and it gives you a bit more room
of course an expert doinng either job is the key
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Mine were cut also. As long as the guy doesn't go CRAZY with the saw, cutting isn't as scary as you might think.

Rolling should be fine too, as long as you take all the necessary precautions.
Old 10-15-2006, 02:46 PM
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Rolling is a good option. If the shop doesn't use a heat gun, stop the work and get out of there asap.
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..........................So is there a diffrence between rolling and cutting as far as the final product goes, i konw when you roll a fender you ROLL it and when cutting it it is required to CUT it; my question is which option is better and why?
Old 10-15-2006, 04:35 PM
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From outside appearances, there is no difference visually. There is a structural difference though.

If you cut, you're removing the flange of metal that stiffened the fender opening. If you roll it, you're doubling back the flange of metal so you still retain some of the stiffness in the fender opening.


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