You got PM

Thanks,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

Hi, Yes we can do it no problem but it's not cheap and you'll have to send me a color match.

Just FYI (and for everyone else that's interested):

We are powder coating these wheels at a wheel mfg here in Cali. Powder coating cold-forged wheels is a very specific process and should only be done at an experienced powder coater. The custom colored wheels we are selling are NOT available in these colors through Rays Japan.

I'll PM you

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

look great

 

Nismo350Z and redlude97, I know RAYS makes Volk and GramLights, my statement about the wheels not being Volks was to kwiker.

Hey GruppeS, what kind of warranty is offered on the wheels you sell? Also, what are the specs on those 57F's, will they even fit a 350Z?

 

Hi,

We offer full manufacturers warranty on the Volk wheels. Warranty is guaranteed against defects in workmanship by Rays Wheels Japan. That said - I can't remember the last time a Volk wheel needed warranty... These are high quality JDM cold-forged wheels not made in the phillipines replica wheels.

As for the 57Fs - per my previous post nope, we are just using them as an example. We have a GB going on for CE28N, TE37, RE30 etc. that we can do with the blue lips also.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

im not too sure what people were looking @ when they said theyre fake? i know some vendor sells either volk or rays sticker, you just have to provide proof that you own the wheels.

btw, rims are sick!

 

these are "gray market" items that Gruppe-S got. Which means they're not legit. Kind of like illegal Mexicans in California, or illegal Puerto Ricans in New York if you will. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

Yeah it's PITA but I also understand their point. I've been searching for a special grams light sticker for my wheels

 

Please refrain from commenting on our products if you don't know the law.

The wheels we are offering are not illegal. They are imported directly from Japan by-passing the US importer. It's the same thing Costco does with TAG / Movado watches and many other products.

That's how we save the customers hundreds of dollars per a set of Rays wheels - you just have to wait a bit longer >IF< the us importer has it in stock. Same thing if you got on a plane and flew over to Japan today - you'd get the same prices we are charging. EXCEPT we have brought these wheels in for you already...

As for the 57F - they aren't even gray market. Nismo didn't want them, they were busy moving to Tennessee or wherever they are at now, and decided to dump the entire two containers for a bulk price. We bought them.

I'd appreciate it if you removed any comments or suggestions stating that our products are illegal or illegitimate - they're not.

Thanks,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

Actually the kid is borderline slander and holds himself liable for any financial loss due to his comment turning away potential customers.

 

what size and offsets?

 

I did not say YOUR WHEELS are illegal. I just said it's the same concept as illegal immigrants, which just means not coming in through the right channels.

 

True that and my lawyer wife agrees!

I would remove the offending text if I were you TT-z

 

Thanks and back to the topic at hand. Gram lights are a great brand that came from Rays. I personally have the 57-F Pro and have had no problems/defaults on it. Gruppe-S is selling a very nice wheel and have performed a great service to this forum from the early years.

 

too bad you're not me then.

As I said above, I didn't say they're ILLEGAL, just coming through the wrong channels. There's a reason why Mackin gets them in as the "US distributor". If everyone goes to Japan and imports their own wheels, why would any company even bother being the US distributor? I'm sure someone's going to have a field day with this as well.

who cares. I'll let you gents get back to your discussions.

 

Noted. You can pay more for them through "authorized" channels if that makes you feel better. Or you can pay less and get the exact same product. The choice is up to the customer. We are only offering the customer an alternative. That is all.

I didn't mean to call you out or anything - I just wanted to make it clear that our products ARE NOT ILLEGAL OR ILLEGITIMATE in any shape or form.

We have nothing to hide. If you ask we tell you where our wheels are coming from. They're legitimate wheels. Frankly I don't want to talk about gray market - I want to talk about offering our customers a good selection of wheels to choose from, but I guess some people just want to talk about it... <shrug>

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

gruppe's local and i wish them the best of luck with trying to convert this stock into viable sales. i think they have some business savvy in this venture, especially with the blue "time attack" idea.

in my experience, some companies only extend ownership benefits to products purchased via authorized channels. to give you an example, some watch manufacturers will only warranty watches sold through authorized dealers. just more food for thought. it doesn't seem that rays has this limitation since gruppe indicates the warranty is valid when purchased through them. it looks like rays hasn't incentivized purchasing through authorized means.

 

Thanks

That's totally correct, we would not ask the US distributor to extend warranty coverage to wheels we are importing. Rather warranty coverage is provided by Rays Wheels Japan when we send any warranty cases back to Japan. It is definitely an important distinction, especially in the case of products such as watches etc. However for these particular wheels the distinction is very small because first they are not serviced in house by any US distributor (rather it must be sent back to Japan) and second we have sold literally thousands of sets of wheels (of all types) and have never had to warranty a single wheel.

In fact, the only time I have ever heard of wheels needing to be warrantied was with a cheap replica wheel that cracked under high torque load produced by a Viper GTS. Why a Viper GTS owner bought a cheap replica wheel? I dunno...

But yes, if a warranty issue were to exist we would get it taken care of!

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

I really like that idea. Those wheels look great!

Are the blue lips just stickers or what? If so, how do you ensure the lip color wont peel off eventually?

Please PM me pricing and color options for the gramlights and RE30's. Im not sure what sizes they all come in but I am interested in 18x8.5, 9, 9.5, & 10. With offsets to fit the Z. Thanks!

 

does the blue powder coat match or is similar to the Daytona Blue? whats with the haters? props to GruppeS for providing better prices, and more power to them for having the hookup, as long as Japanese kids aren't being exploited, killed, or mamed with missing arms and such there isn't much to talk about