Gloss black 19" concave wheels w/ no lip?
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
sorry, but i dont give a sh*t....
because they dont know any better...
and another...
because they dont know any better...
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I guarantee at that impact any wheel with that spoke design would have crumbled. Yet you keep posting because your oblivious to your fanboyism. Suburu uses rota in their races. They're also the supplier of many OEM wheels.
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Originally Posted by AroundMyHorn
I guarantee at that impact any wheel with that spoke design would have crumbled. Yet you keep posting because your oblivious to your fanboyism. Suburu uses rota in their races. They're also the supplier of many OEM wheels.
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
i was trying to figure out why you keep on defending these replica wheels, and just realized you were selling some. guess thats why you accuse me of fanboyism. next thing your going to say is rotora brakes are of equal quality to endless or stoptechs...
never said that. All I'm saying is your showing pics of catastrophic accidents which is not the norm. The wheels can put up with plenty of punishment (once again, track junkies love them). Is rotora as good as stoptech...maybe not, but they are not too far behind....
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I don't think anyone is arguing the strength and durability of forging vs. casting. Theres nothing wrong with a cast replica. Forged rims are typically used in racing because in the event of some sort of accident where the wheel is damaged, the rim has a better chance of being bent instead of cracking and still be able to maintain air pressure to finish the race.
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Originally Posted by T_K
I don't think anyone is arguing the strength and durability of forging vs. casting. Theres nothing wrong with a cast replica. Forged rims are typically used in racing because in the event of some sort of accident where the wheel is damaged, the rim has a better chance of being bent instead of cracking and still be able to maintain air pressure to finish the race.
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BUT the strength of the cast wheel depends on the quality too, for example: the quality level of an OEM cast wheel is far superior to something like rota.
of course people can track on rotas, racetracks dont have potholes, well they shouldnt.
i also dont like knock off wheels, but ill just focus on quality
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Any rim can bend, forged or cast. A forged rim will have a little more give than a cast rim. A forged rim will have a little more "flex." Given a hypothetical situation, where a cast rim hits a pothole and the impact generated exactly enough force to crack the rim, a forged rim of same shape and size, would probably bend. That isn't to say a forged rim can't crack either, given enough force.
Cast rim quality depends on the process used. Generally the more expensive the process, the stronger the cast wheel. Quality assurance plays a role in this too.
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Cast rim quality depends on the process used. Generally the more expensive the process, the stronger the cast wheel. Quality assurance plays a role in this too.
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Cast wheels are not created equal. Far from it.
For example, Ray's RFC process and Enkei's MAT process on cast wheels are very different from how cheaper wheels like Rota, Sevas, ADR, Axis, etc... are created. Makes a difference in both weight and strength.
Who wants to bet against that argument?
For example, Ray's RFC process and Enkei's MAT process on cast wheels are very different from how cheaper wheels like Rota, Sevas, ADR, Axis, etc... are created. Makes a difference in both weight and strength.
Who wants to bet against that argument?
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Originally Posted by T_K
Any rim can bend, forged or cast. A forged rim will have a little more give than a cast rim. A forged rim will have a little more "flex." Given a hypothetical situation, where a cast rim hits a pothole and the impact generated exactly enough force to crack the rim, a forged rim of same shape and size, would probably bend. That isn't to say a forged rim can't crack either, given enough force.
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Originally Posted by ihatethatbobbarker
have you researched this, do you have any clue what you are talking about?, i can back what im sayingup, can you?
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Where's that pic of that red work meister on the g35 that was totalled racing? Its forged lip was bent to hell but didn't crack
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Originally Posted by g-unit9999
hitting a pretty bad pothole at ~80mph with a forged rim:
BENT not cracked
BENT not cracked
ok, so what's the point? We all know forged is better right? Well, thats strange....because in my old car I hit a pothole at about 75 with a cast wheel.....guess what happened....nothing(except a tore up tire).
Forged wheels are better..we know this. That doesn't mean that all other wheels are crap (looks being subjective).
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
i believe work meisters are cast outer lips and the centers are forged. i may be wrong on this, so if so, please correct me, i knoow the ssr's are that way.
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Originally Posted by AroundMyHorn
ok, so what's the point? We all know forged is better right? Well, thats strange....because in my old car I hit a pothole at about 75 with a cast wheel.....guess what happened....nothing(except a tore up tire).
Forged wheels are better..we know this. That doesn't mean that all other wheels are crap (looks being subjective).
Forged wheels are better..we know this. That doesn't mean that all other wheels are crap (looks being subjective).
Originally Posted by ihatethatbobbarker
you've got it backwards, cast rims bend, forged rims crack, but forged rims take longer before they crack compared to how easily cast rims bend
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i could be wrong, but arent meisters entirely cast? otherwise they are the heaviest forged wheels EVER
yeah and? ive got a cracked progressive spoke in my garage, the rims not even bent, just has a huge crack...
ive got 3 that are perfectly fine btw if anyone wants to buy them
Originally Posted by redlude97
I think this was his point
Looks like a bend and not a crack to me
Looks like a bend and not a crack to me
ive got 3 that are perfectly fine btw if anyone wants to buy them
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Originally Posted by ihatethatbobbarker
i could be wrong, but arent meisters entirely cast? otherwise they are the heaviest forged wheels EVER
yeah and? ive got a cracked progressive spoke in my garage, the rims not even bent, just has a huge crack...
ive got 3 that are perfectly fine btw if anyone wants to buy them
yeah and? ive got a cracked progressive spoke in my garage, the rims not even bent, just has a huge crack...
ive got 3 that are perfectly fine btw if anyone wants to buy them