12 inch wide rims..mmm : )
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Originally Posted by DustinZ33
I don't think so. Many race teams use a the same stretch or a little more stretch than a 255 on a 10. And a 255 on a 9 is not stretched at all.
Show me proof. I want to see actual race teams that would put a measly, dinky 255 on a 10". $5 bucks says you got nothing.
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Originally Posted by DustinZ33
example of race car with stretched tires
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Incorrect, that's a rice team, not race. None of the top BMW's are that low and have that insane amount of camber. That car would get it's doors blown off by the top US set up E36's. You think that car could compete with the G/C cars that run 18x10's with 275/285's?
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It is a real race car and it appears to me that because its going through the turn the tires are being tucked under giving it a stetched look. I'm sure you can find real examples in a static mode.
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
Incorrect, that's a rice team, not race. None of the top BMW's are that low and have that insane amount of camber. That car would get it's doors blown off by the top US set up E36's. You think that car could compete with the G/C cars that run 18x10's with 275/285's?
"In 1998, we demonstrated the superiority of our diesel technology on the racetrack by winning the 24-hours of N�rburgring in a race-tuned 320d Sedan. This grueling test of endurance not only proved the 320d’s ability to run longer between fuel stops, but on a larger scale, demonstrated that performance and fuel efficiency are not mutually exclusive."
check you sh*t bro.
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i dunno, last time i checked, according to bmw:
"In 1998, we demonstrated the superiority of our diesel technology on the racetrack by winning the 24-hours of N�rburgring in a race-tuned 320d Sedan. This grueling test of endurance not only proved the 320d’s ability to run longer between fuel stops, but on a larger scale, demonstrated that performance and fuel efficiency are not mutually exclusive."
check you sh*t bro.
"In 1998, we demonstrated the superiority of our diesel technology on the racetrack by winning the 24-hours of N�rburgring in a race-tuned 320d Sedan. This grueling test of endurance not only proved the 320d’s ability to run longer between fuel stops, but on a larger scale, demonstrated that performance and fuel efficiency are not mutually exclusive."
check you sh*t bro.
One example vs thousands of properly setup BMWs does not = the best way to go about things. Trust me, if a BMW setup that's known to be successful was that, I'd know....being in the BMW scene for over 15 years might have something to do with that....I breath those cars, and NOONE runs that low of ride heights, especially up front, that messes with the lower control arm geometry....for the worse. But you knew that already.....
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Can't really argue a factory team. How can you question BMW's setup for a 24 hour enduro? That said, none of us know what kind of geometry or tires they're running on that car. And that was in 1998 as well; motorsport evolves temendously.
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
I breath those cars, and NOONE runs that low of ride heights, especially up front, that messes with the lower control arm geometry....for the worse. But you knew that already.....
i dont care if you breathe those cars, i dont care. but you asked for an example, one was provided and you still dont shut up.
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
but you would know if you have eyes that that car is under a significant amount of g-loading through a turn, thus compressing the suspension.
i dont care if you breathe those cars, i dont care. but you asked for an example, one was provided and you still dont shut up.
i dont care if you breathe those cars, i dont care. but you asked for an example, one was provided and you still dont shut up.
And you still don't get that's ONE example of a BMW set up that way....so stfu already.
Ever try to compress 1000lb/in springs? Didn't think so...it won't make the front tire tuck that much up in the wheelwell. You think I haven't seen a BMW under cornering loads? Get a fukin life loser....I used to run my M3 at the track all the time.
Oh, and coming from a kid that says.....
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Congrats. Stop crying already and just chill out. You've been running around talking about how you're an expert at this and a expert at this because you've driven and race all these cars and daddy has this. Whatever. All I ever said was that some racing teams are using a little stretch and it can be done successfully. The majority of racing teams and people in general or not running this on the track. I have 265s on 10.5s and it handles great. But it is for looks as well. A flush, low profile tire is always gonna be better than using a tire that bubbles out from the wheels. Chill out with vulgar language and threatening people.
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
You think I haven't seen a BMW under cornering loads?
Originally Posted by Justin07Z
Get a fukin life loser....
Oh, and coming from a kid that says.....
Oh, and coming from a kid that says.....
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oh and btw, yes i have driven cars with 18kg/mm rates (including a z) and if your feeble mind cant convert that to in lbs. it equals about 1000lb/in.
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wow this thread got out of hand fast. And it all comes from people who think they know everything, yet have tried absolutely nothing.
What many people dont realize is how much contact patch you have with a narrow whee/wide tire combo. A 275 on a 7" wheel is absolutely HORRIBLE. You'd have more contact patch with a 255 on a 10" wheel, garunteed. And yes, 'stretching' to an extent is excellent for tire feel and feedback as well as sharp turn in. Try it before you hate on it.
What many people dont realize is how much contact patch you have with a narrow whee/wide tire combo. A 275 on a 7" wheel is absolutely HORRIBLE. You'd have more contact patch with a 255 on a 10" wheel, garunteed. And yes, 'stretching' to an extent is excellent for tire feel and feedback as well as sharp turn in. Try it before you hate on it.
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Originally Posted by nlzmo400r
And yes, 'stretching' to an extent is excellent for tire feel and feedback as well as sharp turn in. Try it before you hate on it.
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Originally Posted by redlinez
overZealous1,
I have 11's +28 with 305's and can't imagine 335 on 12's +25 not rubbing on the shocks, inner fenders and sticking out beyond pulled fenders, do you have any pics or links to 335's on 12's?
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I have 11's +28 with 305's and can't imagine 335 on 12's +25 not rubbing on the shocks, inner fenders and sticking out beyond pulled fenders, do you have any pics or links to 335's on 12's?
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there was a set of 20x12 rears that just sold on ebay with 335's (iirc) that was on a G and sold to a Z owner. if you search the wheels classified, he was selling them here too. he had pics up.
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bottom line, tire and wheel selection is highly regulated. they may be limited in actual tire size, and not wheel, thus a slight rollover due to using a wheel width they could choose, would help a little. but you will never see a class limited on wheel size run a 255 on a 10" wheel when he could run a 315"!