>>> Vredestein Sessanta Vs Sumitomo HTR Z III <<<
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From the corvette forums, I found that a few people have purchased through http://tomzwheels.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/24_486 Not sure if they offer all the sizes though.
Other than the other two sites mentioned, it seems like ebay is the only other option.
Other than the other two sites mentioned, it seems like ebay is the only other option.
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These tires do seem like a good value, but at the same time, I'm a bit skeptical at the reviews. First hand reviews are best, but then again I disagree with some of reviews that hold tires like the Toyo T1Rs and General exclaim UHPs in high regard. They're decent tires, but I feel that the low price of these tires are their best asset and largely contribute to the positive reviews.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
These tires do seem like a good value, but at the same time, I'm a bit skeptical at the reviews. First hand reviews are best, but then again I disagree with some of reviews that hold tires like the Toyo T1Rs and General exclaim UHPs in high regard. They're decent tires, but I feel that the low price of these tires are their best asset and largely contribute to the positive reviews.
I Believe there is always good or bad.
I understand that why you said disagree with some of reviews. ( compared with toyo)
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
How many miles did you get out of the sumitomos? And did you have the kuhmo MXs. How did those compare?
I had the khumo MX on my Z and do not like them. Anything other than perfect conditions and they are down right dangerous. I recently installed the vredesteins as my khumos were worn with about 14K on them. regardless of how I feel about the vredesteins, I won't run the khumos again. I would probably pick up a set of BFGs if the vredesteins don't work out
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Originally Posted by Zivman
The sumitomos I had were not the exact models listed here. Mine were on a FWD application and lasted a mere 10K miles.
I had the khumo MX on my Z and do not like them. Anything other than perfect conditions and they are down right dangerous. I recently installed the vredesteins as my khumos were worn with about 14K on them. regardless of how I feel about the vredesteins, I won't run the khumos again. I would probably pick up a set of BFGs if the vredesteins don't work out
I had the khumo MX on my Z and do not like them. Anything other than perfect conditions and they are down right dangerous. I recently installed the vredesteins as my khumos were worn with about 14K on them. regardless of how I feel about the vredesteins, I won't run the khumos again. I would probably pick up a set of BFGs if the vredesteins don't work out
I heard lot of good things about BFG.
expec ' Noise '
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I Believe there is always good or bad.
I understand that why you said disagree with some of reviews. ( compared with toyo)
I understand that why you said disagree with some of reviews. ( compared with toyo)
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
I was looking to purchase the Vredestein for another vehicle, but they didn't have the sizes I needed. I was going to go with some RE-01Rs which don't cost to much more than lower level Bridgestones for some reason, but I ended up buying a set of tires on sale instead.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
RE050A Pole Positions. I ran them on the Z and was quite fond of them. On the tirerack, they were special priced for the sizes I needed.
lucky, how come i missed all the special things..
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Originally Posted by Zivman
exactly. I can handle a little road noise as long as the tires are decent
That was only one reason i didn't order BFG.
i don't think i can handle loud noise.
but i got a quote from local discount tires
they gave me 900 even. 255/35/18 275/35/18 wasn't that bad
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i actually bought a set of Faulkins but my next set will either be Vredesteins. I should have gone with them initially however i was impatient and couldnt wait to have them shipped.
For the price and looks you cant go wrong..hell i may just buy two sets
For the price and looks you cant go wrong..hell i may just buy two sets
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I have the HTR ZIII and am in love so far. Amazing grip, even in cold weather... really really sticky. No road noise... ride is a little harsher than the GSD3s I ran. The only thing is that the sidewalls are a little rounder than I like. On the wet roads yesterday they were perfectly fine, but I have not had them in a downpour yet to judge.
They are very good tires so far, and have a 300 wear rating... for the price I am amazed... the whole set from TireRack was 550 bucks.
I don't really want to 'endorse' them until I have had a chance to get them fully broken in (still under 500mis and they are already fantastic), driven in warm weather (since they are summer UHP), in heavy rain and after decent mileage for an idea of the wear.
I am the 2nd guy in my club to get these tires and we are both blown away so far. I will be writing a review once the conditions above are met.
TireRack already has a comparison test of the HTRZIII and some reviews from users that can give you some data to compare (which I know I already gave you): http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...irePageLocQty=
They are very good tires so far, and have a 300 wear rating... for the price I am amazed... the whole set from TireRack was 550 bucks.
I don't really want to 'endorse' them until I have had a chance to get them fully broken in (still under 500mis and they are already fantastic), driven in warm weather (since they are summer UHP), in heavy rain and after decent mileage for an idea of the wear.
I am the 2nd guy in my club to get these tires and we are both blown away so far. I will be writing a review once the conditions above are met.
TireRack already has a comparison test of the HTRZIII and some reviews from users that can give you some data to compare (which I know I already gave you): http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...irePageLocQty=
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
no offense, but if you didn't have the model we are talking about, why post up? you talk about tire wear, are they rated the same as the HTRZIII? not bashing you Ziv but apples to apples
I know it is not directly apples to apples, but just my opinion. There is no industry standard when it comes to treadware, and IMHO sumitomo inflated theirs to more directly compete with the competition.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
I guess my point was that the tires had a similar treadware rating to other tires I was looking at. But they only lasted about half as long... I ran khumos on that car afterwords in comparison.
I know it is not directly apples to apples, but just my opinion. There is no industry standard when it comes to treadware, and IMHO sumitomo inflated theirs to more directly compete with the competition.
I know it is not directly apples to apples, but just my opinion. There is no industry standard when it comes to treadware, and IMHO sumitomo inflated theirs to more directly compete with the competition.
I just didn't want people to write these tires off based on thier old ones (which I wouldn't run on)