Trouble with Wheels/Tires
lol we're getting closer, but not there yet. When I say what best fits on the car, I don't mean by looking at it and saying "that is SWEET!" or anything like that. I mean what physically fits.
like xxx/xx/xx on the front with X size offset, xxx/xx/xx/ on the back with X size offset.
I'm planning on buying things online, I just don't want to order it all and it gets here to be the wrong size, or worse when they mount/balance it, it doesn't fit and/or rubs on the fender or something.
I'm not talking about looks at this point, I'm talking questions like:
What are the key factors to keep in mind when buying tires and wheels separately from different sources? Rim width? Offset? What offsets can go on the Z with a "typical" tire size? What happens if I have a wheel with the "wrong" offset? What IS the typical tire size for front, and what's typical for the back? Am I going to end up getting a tire/wheel package that sits INSIDE the fender as opposed to flush with it?
like xxx/xx/xx on the front with X size offset, xxx/xx/xx/ on the back with X size offset.
I'm planning on buying things online, I just don't want to order it all and it gets here to be the wrong size, or worse when they mount/balance it, it doesn't fit and/or rubs on the fender or something.
I'm not talking about looks at this point, I'm talking questions like:
What are the key factors to keep in mind when buying tires and wheels separately from different sources? Rim width? Offset? What offsets can go on the Z with a "typical" tire size? What happens if I have a wheel with the "wrong" offset? What IS the typical tire size for front, and what's typical for the back? Am I going to end up getting a tire/wheel package that sits INSIDE the fender as opposed to flush with it?
Pick out the rims you want first:
Something in 19x8.5/9 in the front with offsets no more than 30.
Something in 19x9.5/10/10.5 in the rear with offsets no more than 30.
Then pick tires to go with your rims:
Either 245/35/19 or 255/35/19 respectively for the front (you chose, either will work on both rims sizes i have shown above for the front.
Either 275/35/19 or 285/35/19 or 295/35/19 for the rear, respective to rim sizes i show above.
Walla...its that simple.
Pick out rims first, always...then just buy tires to fit on those rims and into that lovely wheelwell.
EDIT: By the way, the cheapest, crapiest, downright made in Somalia type rims you can get plus some super cheap tires made by phillapino hookers to match will still cost you no less than 1200.00 for everything new.
You have been warned. I, personally, wouldnt spend any less than 2k for everything.
Something in 19x8.5/9 in the front with offsets no more than 30.
Something in 19x9.5/10/10.5 in the rear with offsets no more than 30.
Then pick tires to go with your rims:
Either 245/35/19 or 255/35/19 respectively for the front (you chose, either will work on both rims sizes i have shown above for the front.
Either 275/35/19 or 285/35/19 or 295/35/19 for the rear, respective to rim sizes i show above.
Walla...its that simple.
Pick out rims first, always...then just buy tires to fit on those rims and into that lovely wheelwell.
EDIT: By the way, the cheapest, crapiest, downright made in Somalia type rims you can get plus some super cheap tires made by phillapino hookers to match will still cost you no less than 1200.00 for everything new.
You have been warned. I, personally, wouldnt spend any less than 2k for everything.
Last edited by GeauxLadyZ; Jul 15, 2009 at 03:03 PM.
lol this is really amazing..I gave you the same info 2 times in this thread
you have to be willing to read what people are typing to you instead of just throwing your hands up and saying 'spoon feed me'
you have to be willing to read what people are typing to you instead of just throwing your hands up and saying 'spoon feed me'
Sorry about that. I think it was really tunnel vision because every time you also mentioned money and I kept trying to get my point across more that it wasn't about the money. Apparently you were already on that page. I was also at work multitasking - like I said, no mean to **** anyone off or be frustrating, just trying to understand. I do a little more now though... at least enough to buy wheels(I hope)
Offset can be a bit baffling. Understanding offset and wheel position is the key. Members toss numbers but they are just numbers with no relation. Experiment with the calculator. See which way the wheel moves and how much.
davidv is right, in that without knowing what the numbers mean they are useless to helping you pick out a proper fitting wheel/tire setup that is to YOUR liking.
Look on these forums, you have a huge range of preferences in wheel and tire setups. Some people like getting really aggressive offsets below +10, sometimes well into the negatives, and run really really small tires so that they "fit":
https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...s-welcome.html
On the other end of the spectrum, you have people that like to have a lot of tire:
https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...es-thread.html
And then you have the people that don't want to go to either extreme, and just want something that looks different from the factory wheels to set them apart and don't want to have to do absolutely anything else to allow the wheel/tire setup to fit and look good.
Without knowing what type of look you're going for, it's pretty hard to help you. I will say this, I wouldn't budget less than $1500-$2000 for wheels and tires. At this price range, I'd honestly probably recommend Rota and Enkie.
Find the wheels your car came stock with, you can find the information on here regarding widths and offsets. Then compare wheels you're interested in purchasing with an offset calculator:
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
The offset calculator will tell you the difference in clearances the aftermarket set of wheels will have compared to your set up right now, such as how much more the wheels will stick out. Then to out to your car with a ruler or measuring tape and see if that would make sense. I.E. the proposed setup with stick out 24mm more than your current wheel/tire package in the front, and 30mm more in the back. Then, if you don't understand mm, go to a conversion page such as this:
http://www.convertunits.com/from/mm/to/inches
Then you'd know that the new setup with still out an additional inch in front and a bit over an inch in the rear. Once you go out to your car and confirm that it will sit inside the fenders fine with a measuring tape or ruler, check into possible tire sizes that would work with the setup. Here is a pretty good tool for this:
http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp
The goal is to stay as close to stock spec in overall diameter so as to not affect your speedometer, traction control systems (if present on your model), and of course maintain a similar size to OEM as to not completely disrupt how the car was engineered, which would cause quite a bit more suspension work to accommodate for the change.
Now get to work and quit making us do your homework.
You are lucky this time, members offered well more help than necessary.
Esp Done Deal and Z1...they both offered long, informative posts which are rare here...so take the time to read and understand.
I offered you the spoon this time with a simple answer to your question, so sure you can go buy some rims with what i told you, but you still wont understand the concept of wheel fittment on the Z or in general.
Z1 is right, if you want to be "spoon fed", this is not the forum for you. Think of this website as more of a Z library than a "mechanics on line to answer your questions".
I spent almost a full year writing next to no posts and just reading threads over and over, and have just recently started writing to help others where i can now that i have learned some about the Z.
Im not trying to sit on a high horse here, please understand, just trying to help with any future problems you might have...and if your modding your Z...you will.
Esp Done Deal and Z1...they both offered long, informative posts which are rare here...so take the time to read and understand.
I offered you the spoon this time with a simple answer to your question, so sure you can go buy some rims with what i told you, but you still wont understand the concept of wheel fittment on the Z or in general.
Z1 is right, if you want to be "spoon fed", this is not the forum for you. Think of this website as more of a Z library than a "mechanics on line to answer your questions".
I spent almost a full year writing next to no posts and just reading threads over and over, and have just recently started writing to help others where i can now that i have learned some about the Z.
Im not trying to sit on a high horse here, please understand, just trying to help with any future problems you might have...and if your modding your Z...you will.
Last edited by GeauxLadyZ; Jul 15, 2009 at 06:48 PM.
You are lucky this time, members offered well more help than necessary.
Esp Done Deal and Z1...they both offered long, informative posts which are rare here...so take the time to read and understand.
I offered you the spoon this time with a simple answer to your question, so sure you can go buy some rims with what i told you, but you still wont understand the concept of wheel fittment on the Z or in general.
Z1 is right, if you want to be "spoon fed", this is not the forum for you. Think of this website as more of a Z library than a "mechanics on line to answer your questions".
I spent almost a full year writing next to no posts and just reading threads over and over, and have just recently started writing to help others where i can now that i have learned some about the Z.
Im not trying to sit on a high horse here, please understand, just trying to help with any future problems you might have...and if your modding your Z...you will.
Esp Done Deal and Z1...they both offered long, informative posts which are rare here...so take the time to read and understand.
I offered you the spoon this time with a simple answer to your question, so sure you can go buy some rims with what i told you, but you still wont understand the concept of wheel fittment on the Z or in general.
Z1 is right, if you want to be "spoon fed", this is not the forum for you. Think of this website as more of a Z library than a "mechanics on line to answer your questions".
I spent almost a full year writing next to no posts and just reading threads over and over, and have just recently started writing to help others where i can now that i have learned some about the Z.
Im not trying to sit on a high horse here, please understand, just trying to help with any future problems you might have...and if your modding your Z...you will.
On this note, I've also started a quest searching for the best Z informative websites. This one so far is at the top, it just takes a bit to learn how to navigate, but I'll learn
Dude, www.tirerack.com. Enter your car details, they will show you what wheels/sizes/offsets fit and include a tire size recommendation. Write that down, then start shopping used.
a nice fit for front you should go with a 235-265/35/19 and the smaller the offset number the more flush with the fender the wheel will be. a typical rear size that works is say a 245-285/35/19 but keep in mind the smaller the offset is in the rear you will run into rubbing issues especially if you lower it, therefore rolling the rear fenders is needed.
personally a (+5)-(+15) offset for the rear looks good with a fat tire.
but its up to you
obviously a 285 tire is thicker than a 245
and as for your rims be sure to get at least an 8.5 width
and depending how aggressive you want it no more than a 10.5 or 11
hope this helps
personally a (+5)-(+15) offset for the rear looks good with a fat tire.
but its up to you
obviously a 285 tire is thicker than a 245
and as for your rims be sure to get at least an 8.5 width
and depending how aggressive you want it no more than a 10.5 or 11
hope this helps
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