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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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So first off, let me start by saying that I've been searching and searching, but can't seem to find the right tire/wheel combo. I want something cheap(not shitty quality, but price conservative). I don't need it for the track, crazy turning, just to look good and perform as needed.

The problem is when I think I have a tire picked out, it can't hold the wheel I find. When I have a good wheel picked out, there is a problem with the offset. So many freaking numbers and other details to work out.

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  • Basic tire(I've been seeing general numbers of 245/35/19 FT, 275/35/19 BK)
  • A BLACK 19" rim
  • Look good(Again, style is more important than performance)
  • To NOT spend a good deal of money(I would buy used if I knew what to look for)

Can ANYONE please help me figure out what I need for tire and wheel specs? Or even if possible point me in the direction of a cheaper alternative setup that they may have experience with?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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What suspension are you on? Stock? Coilovers? Lowering springs?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Stock suspension. I just got the Z and am willing to do some suspension work in the near future, but I don't want to go too crazy with the costly mods since buying it set me back a little bit(and I dont remember much about cars since I've been on motorcycles and trucks forever)

But to answer the original question, stock suspension.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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1. set a budget
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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1. set a budget

As cheap as possible. I don't have a set budget... I just want a good price on it all(cheap price)
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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unfortunately that's not going to help anyone help you

as cheap as possible to one person, and as cheap as possible to another person, can be 2 differnet things

is as cheap as possible $100? $2500? $5000?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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unfortunately that's not going to help anyone help you

as cheap as possible to one person, and as cheap as possible to another person, can be 2 differnet things

is as cheap as possible $100? $2500? $5000?
Fair enough - Then let's start with between 500 and 1000.

**edit: But when I say as cheap as possible, I mean like the cheapest possible tire/wheel combo for that price. If there is a wheel that is black and cheaper than what I get figured out here, thats the one I want(kinda thing)**
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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for wheels and tires together? Start looking in the used classifieds,and see if anything strikes your fancy. Nothing new that truly fits the car well is going to be anywhere near that price
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Been looking there.

You're missing the original point of my post... the point is... I dont know what sizes and specs I'm LOOKING for. Thats why I said price isn't an issue at this point. I could get a $500 set or a $3000 set... but I need to know what to look for.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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That depends on what sort of "look" you want

Do you want it to look like it belongs there? Or do you want it to look like you found some wheels, that happened to sorta fit on the car?

The most popular sizes? 19's would be 19x8.5 with offsets from +30 on down to the teens, and 19x9.5 with offsets in the same range - at least gives you a good starting range. Tire sizes - most popular would be 245/40/18, 275/40/18. There can, and will be deviations from there by brand, etc. Wider/lower offset works as well - the really make them shine, you gotta lower the car. Again, all depends on your own needs/wants/budget

I can't tell you what looks good to you...that part is sorta up to you

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lol we're getting closer, but not there yet. When I say what best fits on the car, I don't mean by looking at it and saying "that is SWEET!" or anything like that. I mean what physically fits.

like xxx/xx/xx on the front with X size offset, xxx/xx/xx/ on the back with X size offset.

I'm planning on buying things online, I just don't want to order it all and it gets here to be the wrong size, or worse when they mount/balance it, it doesn't fit and/or rubs on the fender or something.

I'm not talking about looks at this point, I'm talking questions like:

What are the key factors to keep in mind when buying tires and wheels separately from different sources? Rim width? Offset? What offsets can go on the Z with a "typical" tire size? What happens if I have a wheel with the "wrong" offset? What IS the typical tire size for front, and what's typical for the back? Am I going to end up getting a tire/wheel package that sits INSIDE the fender as opposed to flush with it?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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I gave you a very good starting point above. I can't really give you more details than what I provided though, again without details from your end. $1000 for wheels and tires are going to get you something that is lower end on the used side, and downright crap if buying new (if it's even possible at all). A truly quality, proper setup will cost more

Yes, it's going to sit inside the fender - at that price point, you're not going to get wheels that are aggressive enough to be flush. Flush on the cheap = use spacers. Flush without spacers tends to mean higher end wheels (at a price). Again, only you can set those boundries for yourself.

In addition, start going through the posts in the FAQ section (top of this forum) for various threads that are on topic
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
I gave you a very good starting point above. I can't really give you more details than what I provided though, again without details from your end. $1000 for wheels and tires are going to get you something that is lower end on the used side, and downright crap if buying new (if it's even possible at all). A truly quality, proper setup will cost more

Yes, it's going to sit inside the fender - at that price point, you're not going to get wheels that are aggressive enough to be flush. Flush on the cheap = use spacers. Flush without spacers tends to mean higher end wheels (at a price). Again, only you can set those boundries for yourself.

In addition, start going through the posts in the FAQ section (top of this forum) for various threads that are on topic
You keep using the price as a standpoint for what I'm looking for, and I keep saying not to. Lets say my budget is $10,000 and I still want to keep the lowest possible price - now can we talk?

I'm trying to learn the technical aspects of it all, NOT decide what I can afford at this point.
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There are a dozen possible combinations to suit your needs. Interesting that you are searching for a wheel to fit a tire. Examples? The entire forum is examples.
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you're going off in about 20 directions...you set price as a precedant, not me...I am just trying to steer you in the right direction.

again, I gave you a good starting point for widths and offsets - start looking through the private classifieds and see if anything catches your eye.

As for the technical aspects of it, again, read the FAQ's at the top of this forum...it covers all of it.

Here is a rundown

Diameter - you said 19's

Width - see my post above. People do 8's (looks horrendous), 8.5 (better), 9, 9.5, even 10's up front. Most typical is 8.5 to 9.5. Rear widths will range from 8-13 inches. Most typical would be 9.5 to 10.5. There are thousands of pictures of peoples cars posted here, so be prepared to put some time in to hone in on a look that is appealing to you.

Bolt pattern - you need 5x114.3

Offset - offset is the distance from the centerline of the wheel, to the mounting surface. Offset and width go hand in hand. The lower the offset #, the further outward the wheel sits. The higher the offset #, the further inward the wheel sits. What to look for? Something sub 30 and closer to 20 for it to give more of a flush look. You can do lower as well, though those low offsets tend to be on the higher end wheels as mentioned. On my own car, I run 19x9 +18, 19x10 +15. To pull off the lower offsets, the car really needs to be lowered, otherwise it ends up looking ridiculous.

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I commend Z1 for being so patient.


What's right to you may not be for someone else.
Look thru this thread and see what you like --->https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...s-welcome.html
Do not give up just because the answer is not on the first page.
There are tire/rim sizes within that thread.


BTW, you can't get anything for $500-$1000 and expect it to look good or even look right for that matter.
The way I see it, if you can't afford it, leave it stock.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Is this an odd size balance?

Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 275/30/19
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Rota makes very affordable wheels that have great quality and exceed all JWL/VIA test standards. In 19" we offer a few wheels in all Flat Black that will fit great (meant specifically for the 350Z/G35), look amazing, and perform well! Also, these wheels are very budget friendly as the wheels are ~$1,000 for a full set of four

Rota P45 in 19x9 +20 and 19x10 +20

Flat Black



Flat Black Red Lip




Rota Spectrum in 19x9 +20 and 19x10 +20

Flat Black




For these wheels I recommend a 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear tire. These setups will fit great and not require any modifications, even on a lowered car. You can run wider however wider tires will require rolled rear fenders the majority of the time.


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Originally Posted by AznKaos15
BTW, you can't get anything for $500-$1000 and expect it to look good or even look right for that matter.
The way I see it, if you can't afford it, leave it stock.
I understand that completely and I don't doubt that. I really just threw a number out there. Also, I'm not trying to be difficult, but like I said, it's been so long since I've been in the auto scene so I'm trying to get back into it all. I can talk all day long about a suspension lift on your truck, or an exhaust on your motorcycle... but the cars and suspension/tires part is where i'm lacking.
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Originally Posted by jgruberman
Fair enough - Then let's start with between 500 and 1000.

**edit: But when I say as cheap as possible, I mean like the cheapest possible tire/wheel combo for that price. If there is a wheel that is black and cheaper than what I get figured out here, thats the one I want(kinda thing)**
This is not going to work. Figure $800 for tires leaves you with $200 for wheels. Or $50 each.
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