Toyo T1-S vs. FALKEN FK-451
Originally posted by Mr. Potato Head
And have you tried the Toyos T1S?
And have you tried the Toyos T1S?
T1's = best tires I have ever had. I had these following tires to compare with. Pirellie P7000, Nitto 555, Bridgestone S02, Bridgestone S03 and Toyo T1s. The best tire I have had was T1s. Softer, better response, more predictable and great in wet conditions.
I never tried Falken, but I have already found something that makes me very happy.
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I have 19" Volk TE37's wrapped with Proxes T1-S tires. I dropped my Z using the Eibach pro spring kit, but the one thing I didn't do, that now I wish I had... was get hold of a camber/toe kit.
When I got my wheels/tires, there really wasn't mcuh out there, even the JIC kit was near impossible to get hold of and it was what... $1000 or so for both the Camber and Toe kit. Stillen advertised they had a kit but you know Stillen, nothing in stock. (surprise) They flat out told me they were buying the kit from JIC and adding their name. Wow, that doesn't sound like Stillen. (lol)
So I didn't change anything camber/toe wise. I put the wheels on and I admit, I have somewhat of a heavy foot. I walked through the rear 275's inside 5 months, about 11,000 miles.
The outside of the tires were fine but because of the camber angle, the inside of the tires were worn straight through to the belt on both sides. I found this out the hard way, I was heading back to my place one night, a friend was behind me in his vehicle. I took a corner onto a road there is rarely much traffic, it was about 2:00am and I could see nobody was on the road so I let the rear out a little on the corner. (not that any of us Z owners would ever do such a thing)
My buddy is all excited when he gets to my place... dude! you were sparking back there! I'm like... sparking? what? Nothing is draggin... how could I be sparking? I get a flashlight, look under the rear of the car and the belts are clearly visible on the inside one inch of both tires.
I guess what I am saying, is that if you have a dropped Z, and you're going to run 19's... make darn sure you get the camber taken care of right away, or you're wasting your money buying Proxes. They're so soft, you'll kill them fast like I did.
Life is all about lessons, before my car sees new tires next spring (it's parked for the winter now), a camber/toe kit is a must.
Other than that.... Proxes are crazy. I love them. Sticky icky icky, even.
When I got my wheels/tires, there really wasn't mcuh out there, even the JIC kit was near impossible to get hold of and it was what... $1000 or so for both the Camber and Toe kit. Stillen advertised they had a kit but you know Stillen, nothing in stock. (surprise) They flat out told me they were buying the kit from JIC and adding their name. Wow, that doesn't sound like Stillen. (lol)
So I didn't change anything camber/toe wise. I put the wheels on and I admit, I have somewhat of a heavy foot. I walked through the rear 275's inside 5 months, about 11,000 miles.
The outside of the tires were fine but because of the camber angle, the inside of the tires were worn straight through to the belt on both sides. I found this out the hard way, I was heading back to my place one night, a friend was behind me in his vehicle. I took a corner onto a road there is rarely much traffic, it was about 2:00am and I could see nobody was on the road so I let the rear out a little on the corner. (not that any of us Z owners would ever do such a thing)
My buddy is all excited when he gets to my place... dude! you were sparking back there! I'm like... sparking? what? Nothing is draggin... how could I be sparking? I get a flashlight, look under the rear of the car and the belts are clearly visible on the inside one inch of both tires.
I guess what I am saying, is that if you have a dropped Z, and you're going to run 19's... make darn sure you get the camber taken care of right away, or you're wasting your money buying Proxes. They're so soft, you'll kill them fast like I did.
Life is all about lessons, before my car sees new tires next spring (it's parked for the winter now), a camber/toe kit is a must.
Other than that.... Proxes are crazy. I love them. Sticky icky icky, even.
Originally posted by BIGSHOT
have falkens on my WRX & quite happy but would like to try Toyos as will need soon for 18" Volks for 350Z
have falkens on my WRX & quite happy but would like to try Toyos as will need soon for 18" Volks for 350Z
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Originally posted by Mr. Potato Head
And have you tried the Toyos T1S?
And have you tried the Toyos T1S?




