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Old 07-07-2010, 01:15 PM
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current set up
06 350z
Volk gtm
rear 19 x 10.5 ( +23 ) 265-30-19
front 19 x 9.5 ( + 21 ) 245-30-19
megan racing coilovers 2" F & R drop
hotchkis front & rear sways
Ichiba rear camber arms
Ichiba front control arms
fenders are not rolled
at the moment i have ZERO rubbing ( none )

i want to go to a Work VS-xx
19 x 9.5" front
19 x 10.5 " rear
same tire set up
245-30-19 front
265-30-19 rear

i do not want to rub
i do not want to roll my fenders

i can choose between a offset of
front ( +15 or + 2 )
rear ( + 15 or + 2 )

for you experts i want to yeild the largest lip possible
without rubbing or rolling fenders

that being said

what offset will get me there

i appreciate it

Travis
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:44 PM
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+15 for sure... i have +15 on the same size wheels and fenders rolled and i still rub, but i also have fat rubber... 295/275s
Old 07-07-2010, 02:49 PM
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I think at +12 you need to get your fenders rolled.
I'm at +18 in the rear on 275/35/19 tire, not rubbing.
Old 07-07-2010, 02:53 PM
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Certainly you can measure the distance between the tire and fender and make a decision. I have lots of skills but ESP is not one.
Old 07-07-2010, 02:55 PM
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get the works and do whatever you have to do to make them fit
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Why dont you want to roll your fenders?
Old 07-08-2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Guilty1s
+15 for sure... i have +15 on the same size wheels and fenders rolled and i still rub, but i also have fat rubber... 295/275s
this helps me thank you
leaning toward the +15 front & rear

any pics of your set up
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Originally Posted by tribal_visionz
I think at +12 you need to get your fenders rolled.
I'm at +18 in the rear on 275/35/19 tire, not rubbing.
understood

+12 need to roll fenders

+18 you do not

so +15 is kinda in between and with a 265-30-19 i might get a light rub

thanks Man
Travis

any pics of your set up?
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No one hate on my reps

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FYI... i hate wheel gap. But i do rub.
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FYI... i hate wheel gap. But i do rub.
if your a +15 front and rear
with the same 19" x 9.5 & 10.5
with fatter rubber than I

i am thinking that is were I should be and going to a +2 would stick out to much

basically my volks are
rear +21
rear +23

so shooting to +15 would be the right move and +2 to far out

thank you for taking a moment to help me i do appreciate it

anyone happens to run a +2 or even more aggresive than +2 feel free to post a pick if you would not mind

Thanks Travis
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
current set up
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Ichiba rear camber arms
Ichiba front control arms
fenders are not rolled
at the moment i have ZERO rubbing ( none )
...
get whatever you want and increase the camber until you don't rub.
+15 is easier to get away with.. +2 you might as well roll and flare your fenders.
dunno what the big deal is with rolling fenders it only takes a few hours and its not even hard. especially with your mod list.. it'd be a walk in the park.

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Originally Posted by Voboy
get whatever you want and increase the camber until you don't rub.
+15 is easier to get away with.. +2 you might as well roll and flare your fenders.
dunno what the big deal is with rolling fenders it only takes a few hours and its not even hard. especially with your mod list.. it'd be a walk in the park.

i appreciate your help

i am leary to increase camber
i bought car new in 2006
car has 29,000 miles now
i put the volks on at 1000 miles with new tires
since the 1st set of volks I am getting 5,000 out of a set of new tires
2500 miles on inner edges
than i break wheels and tires down and mount the fresh egdes and get another 2500 miles

i have gone thru 4 sets of new tires and i am on my 5th set now

1 set yokohama advan
1 set of yokohama s drive
1 set of kumho ecsta
2 sets of general

so i just put the ichiba front & rear like 1000 miles ago

i do not want to run such aggresive camber i can;t afford tires like that , so a +2 i think will be a tire eater

if i am wrong please advise

thanks

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Id say so... I dont have camber arms and i eat tires like stupid. I would never increase the camber... Before i buy my next set of tires im buying camber arms to correct camber.

Rolling isn't to big a deal to me either.

You will definately be fine with the 245/265. Fronts are pretty much already rolled from the factory.

Im on coilovers too... probally lower then you but i have stiff damning.
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OK... i lied... im +12... But +15 is still pretty agressive.

Here is example of +0

But he is has rolled fenders... and has slightly stretched tires... i dont see how he does it, he must not be as low as me.

I say you have 3 options... Depends on what you like.
+15 with something like the tires you have (option to upgrade to wider tires after fender roll)
+2 with something like the tires you have, but needs fender roll.
+15 with some fat tires, but you would need a fender roll.

I just realized you have same size wheels already.. See how much room you have to spare now. Your volks extended out ~20mm (+2 offset) or 6-7mm (+15). A 20mm spacer on your Volks would set your mind.
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
since the 1st set of volks I am getting 5,000 out of a set of new tires
2500 miles on inner edges
than i break wheels and tires down and mount the fresh egdes and get another 2500 miles
oh my... i flip the rear tires like that also but i can get 10K miles..seems like you like the stretch tire look and so you should get the specs that will give you a large lip and modify the fender to fit them. I think you'd be happier with the aggressive +2 setup. but if you wanted to run a fat tire then you'd want the +15.
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why such wieny stretched tires with those average offsets? If you are dead set on those tires, then run the +2, but I'd stick with an offset closer to what you have now and get 255/35 285/35
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Originally Posted by Guilty1s
OK... i lied... im +12... But +15 is still pretty agressive.

Here is example of +0

But he is has rolled fenders... and has slightly stretched tires... i dont see how he does it, he must not be as low as me.

I say you have 3 options... Depends on what you like.
+15 with something like the tires you have (option to upgrade to wider tires after fender roll)
+2 with something like the tires you have, but needs fender roll.
+15 with some fat tires, but you would need a fender roll.

I just realized you have same size wheels already.. See how much room you have to spare now. Your volks extended out ~20mm (+2 offset) or 6-7mm (+15). A 20mm spacer on your Volks would set your mind.

my current volk are the same 19 x 9.5" front & 19 x 10.5" rear with a +21 & + 23 and the 245 & 265 30 19

basically i want the largest lip i can do and keep rubbing to a minimum or none at all without sticking out to much

now you got me thinking a +2 instead of a +15 would work

maybe i can do a 235 -30-19 front and 255-30-19 rear on a +2 Work
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Originally Posted by Voboy
oh my... i flip the rear tires like that also but i can get 10K miles..seems like you like the stretch tire look and so you should get the specs that will give you a large lip and modify the fender to fit them. I think you'd be happier with the aggressive +2 setup. but if you wanted to run a fat tire then you'd want the +15.
i am thinking i would be happier with a +2 now as well
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Originally Posted by dkmesa350z
why such wieny stretched tires with those average offsets? If you are dead set on those tires, then run the +2, but I'd stick with an offset closer to what you have now and get 255/35 285/35
i prefer the small tire look not the meaty tire look

just preferance

i am thinking now +2
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Do you want stretched tires or no? That will play a huge role in the offset you should get...


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