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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7


Why is it expensive? Because there is a lot more going on at Rays (or any company that does actual engineering) than a few CNC machinists in a room with blocks of metal charging basic time+materials.

A good company is founded on a good infrastructure. Anyone who works in a serious company should know that you have to pay a lot for that infrastructure, but in the end it pays off and makes your company not only profitable, but stable.

Good engineering + good materials + good machinists + good design/looks + validation testing + track proven results = not a "budget" wheel
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by angelo350z
Very interesting, thanks for posting this bro.
No problem man, its been posted before, but it seemed relevant. Wired 247 answered the question perfectly.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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lol wow lots of rays lovers her, seen the video already see lots of automation there which should equal lower costs, how much engineering and reaserch do you need to do to make a strong rim,
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beezee
What kind of machining environment are you in?. You do price quote so you quote your price only based on machine time?. Hmm. You know what R&D is?.
Do you have engineers and CNC programmers?. Do you work in a building?. Does your part go from the machine out straight to the customer?. I don't want to waste my time with chain of questions. Are you involved in high precision?. Parts are sold for more than 1,000 a piece but takes 20 minutes to run. A company could spend years on designs and testing of a product and don't expect them to sell it based on your calculation of hourly rate. Also do some search on the actual machining and assembly cost of your Z and ask yourself if you got ripped off
i work at a shop with over 90 cnc swiss style machines, i've worked at other companys before that we did heavy machining parts that weighed up to 2 and a half tons, talked with engineers about using different tools and also tested different tools these costs are not transfered to customers in order to stay competitive and keep clients , i also worked for a company that produced medical equipment, bone screws, dental implants, from stainless steele to titanium to aluminum i've worked with lots of materials so dont think im talking out my *** and relax the question wasnt directed at you but at Rays.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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lol @ ketchup
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Not sure why there is so much hate towards Ketchup, I think he asked a valid question and is merely looking for a broke down answer.

I only have Volks because I got a great deal on them, otherwise I think spending $1k per wheel is really unjustifiable for my current income.

Worrying about damaging my wheels is the last thing I want on my mind while driving.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Honda2Nismo
Not sure why there is so much hate towards Ketchup, I think he asked a valid question and is merely looking for a broke down answer.
It was a valid question. And it's been answered a few times in this thread.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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You're right, it has been answered. Just not by whom he wanted lol.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:45 AM
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lol not really i already knew most of this stuff hehe lol seen the video, new all about r&d, just wondered if they researched lower pricing lol
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