not sure what you mean vic - I am not really a computer guru

Try hitting reload..you should then be able to get drop down menus for each car by putting the mouse over each car's name

 

Hmm, the Eibachs are sure attractive from an economical and aesthetic point of view, but I guess since everyone's car is different slightly, one really has no idea of whether the rear suspension can be adjusted to within tolerance until you actually get the springs put on. Then it's hit or miss. Either your car is within spec, or it's not and you have to spend some more $$ to get those camber bars.

I'm pretty sure the stocker Bridgestones contribute quite a bit to the harshness too. I'm looking forward to people's reports on the Koni's.

At least we have several options - Eichbachs, Tein, Nismo, Koni.

 

smoothen the ride? meaning reducing the bounce? dramatically ot at least makes it more livable? thanks

 

I am already committed to buying the Konis. They are on order and they are tuned to work with the stock springs which are linear and the spring rate is: 347lbs front and 419lbs rear.

The Tein Luxury Master springs are progressive, not linear and the rates are: 358lbs front and 375lbs rear. Drop is .3"f/.2"r.

My question to Jason is, how will the Tein LMs work with the Konis?, and I would ask you to consult with Gordon at Koni about this, please. I want the best Sport Touring setup for my Touring model I can get because of the roads where I live and, at first glance, the Konis/Tein LM combo could be it.

jmark will probably prefer the linear stock springs with the Konis for autox or just generally a firmer ride and retain the linear springs, I assume this from our previous pms. Several others will go this route, I think.

On the other hand, the Brick Rat has already professed an interest in a Touring setup to please his missus and allow him to take trips more easily if she's more comfortable. This is where I want to get, maximum comfort w/o being sloppy and having too much roll around corners. I don't know if the 11lbs more in the front spring rate will matter to the Konis, but 44lbs less in the rear might.

This is where I need you Jason, to talk with Gordon, and maybe BJ/Mark. The Konis are 4 settings adjustable on rebound, maybe the 44lbs less in the rear would change the rear Konis from full soft to the 1st of the 4 settings to keep everything comfortable, but still responsive in the handling. The Touring setup is not for track/autox, I am thinking and if I buy the Teins as well as the Konis, I can save $ on the install. My tech takes out the stock springs/struts as a unit, and installs the Konis and Teins as a unit after assembly. I am beginning to see the light here, I think I'll do it this way, unless Jason/Gordon and BJ/jmark think its a bad idea.

Keep in mind, a set of adjustable anti-roll bars, along with the adjustable Konis, could take up any slack in the system, if needed.

OK, please give me some feedback on my rationale. I think I should buy the Tein LMs along with the Konis, cut down on install costs and get the Sports Touring setup I want, maybe anti-roll bars later. COMMENTS? COME ONE, COME ALL AND SHOOT AT MY REASONING, PLEASE. I WANT TO HEAR THE GOOD AND THE BAD.

Boomer--Eureka, I may have found the Holy Grail of comfort and handling! Ah, time will tell. Speak to me in pear-shaped tones, I am listening.

 

Might work Boomer. I'll stick with the OEM linear springs/Koni. The Konis have been tested/tuned to work with the OEM springs. However they are adjustable and should work with other springs. I don't want to drop the car if I don't have to. I have enough worries with the drive ways around here. Progressive springs should give you a better ride linear springs lean to performance. I just want the bounce gone. Firm ride doesn't bother me as long as its controlled. Worse case for you is you take the Teins off and go back to the OEM springs. You'd just be out the labor and I'm sure you can resell the Teins. I plan to sell the stock shocks when I swap them. G35 drivers buy the stock Z parts.......

 

Thanks, Mark. The downside you mentioned is certainly not the end of the world if I go back to the stock springs and sell the Teins. I'll wait for the vendors to speak up before doing anything, of course. Their analysis will be my determining factor.

 

I have a hard time believing some of the people who have lowered their cars with shorter springs (ex. Eibachs) and changed to a 19 or 20 inch set up and say that the ride is better. Maybe the bounce is lessened and the cornering or understeer is improved. The bumps and imperfections on the roadway are amplified with shorter springs and less tire sidewall in most, if not all, situations. You're one pothole away from a very expensive trip to the garage.

 

I believe the Eibachs are progressive springs which will give a better ride on the 17s and 18s for sure. I can't speak for the 19s and 20s, too big and expensive for me. Several owners have said the bounce is gone when they drop the car.

 

I am thinking the same thing... The way to get a less harsh ride is to get a shock with different valving that will control the springs bettter and to have a spring that is progressive. THis is is you are trying to retain close to the same handling chateristics and stiffenss in the suspension...

The stock tires actually have a pretty stiff sidewall which is good for handling but not good for ride comfort.. (the problems with the tire are in the rubber comound used rather then design and strength IMHO)

I would recomend that you get the Tein Lux. Springs and some Koni's....