Jah70

lmao I just saw that too

Jah70

http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/?site...&pkw=frs&pmt=e

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz/index.html

Spike100

The best thing about a Z-car (350 or 370) is its torque. What an engine that is in this car!

When you compare a 350z/370z to a car that has an engine that is “turbo-dependent,” you will appreciate the Z’s torque providing immediate response when stepping-down on the accelerator.

I really don’t worry much about blind spots since I’m typically running out in front of the traffic. If I do get stuck in gridlock, the Z’s large mirrors provide all the sight angles I need.

--Spike

Jah70

It's a good thing we have those mirrors

--Jah

Bret86944

iTrader: (4)

That's kind of a negative way to look at it. The Z is one of the best, most fun daily drivers (assuming you don't need extra seats for kids). It's not built to win races. But having that torque around town comes in handy way more often than having to wait until 9k rpms for the power to come like in an s2000. It also handles better than a lot of heavy American muscle cars in it's price range (clearly I'm not talking about vette's). Personally I think it hits its niche very well.

Z1NONLY

iTrader: (2)

"Good" is negative?

BornSlippyZ

iTrader: (1)

Z1 pretty much summed up what I think about the 350Z. Jack of all trades but master of none. Not necessarily a bad thing because all sports cars have their pros and cons. For instance I think the FD Rx7 is one of the best handling cars out there and it has a decent amount of power for a stock vehicle and looks great. But maintenance of that particular engine is a PITA and not IMO a good DD sports car like the 350Z.

Jah70

Regardless if the 86 twins are down on power they are still fun little things to drive. What I don't get is why did they use that particular boxer engine when there is a non turbo boxer engine in subaru's stable that can provide well over 200 horsepower and more than 151 lb ft. of torque. They should of dropped the price a little above scion tC territory. Or they could of used the 2.5 L 2AR-FE that is in the scion tC and modify it since they wanted to save some money.

Bret86944

iTrader: (4)

Only because as a whole I think it's a great car.

smokescreen

iTrader: (1)

i like the 86 twins because of the potential and suspension. even with the awd/rwd difference, i think the brz/frs out handles the sti by a mile.

lets say the price of the 2013 brz/frs is about 25k.
the price of the 2013 sti sits at about 35k.
price of the 2013 370z sits at an avg 36k.

for car enthusiasts and gear heads, the 86 could take that aditional 10k and wipe the floor with the sti and z34


my 2 cents. i love my z, wouldn't trade it for the world. the 86 twins hold a lot of unshown power with the same amount of money to be spent on the z34 or sti.

Z1NONLY

iTrader: (2)

I paid less than 26k for my Z when it was brand new. For that price, "good at almost everything" is a "great" value.

Emski

Here we go again. If you drop this amount of $ on X car you can beat X car that cost this $ blah blah.
You'll just end up with a miata with a LS or ....GT-R.

Z-Crazy

Lol I am with you.
But I would like to add:
A year after you buy car X and commence the superbuild, a newer car comes which is better and faster and you are in the same boat as before.

BornSlippyZ

iTrader: (1)

Ricer math...

Z-Crazy

No math or logic involved what so ever

smokescreen

iTrader: (1)

everyone has their own way of looking at things.

350Zdj

iTrader: (3)

Bottom line: just buy the car that you like.

stuartc323

I will say give this car a couple years, let it catch its stride in the aftermarket dept, or hopefully they will up the HP on the new models and it will be a beast of a car to take to the track.

Z-Crazy

talking about supra and not FRS/BRZ.

DesertShadow

Back to the 370z:

For 36k (sport) I would rather spend a little bit less... on something say...a 2006 Maserati GranSport