vq35hr Nismo flywheel... chatter?
My 07 needs a new clutch and i have been looking into replacing the flywheel as well. After listening to a few chatter clips from lightweight flywheels i've decided that i wouldn't be happy with the extra noise. I've read that people have installed the nismo flywheel on their DE and that it has no chatter... but the DE nismo flywheel is seemingly different than the hr nismo flywheel (from what i can gather).
flywheel weights:
HR stock is ~30
DE nismo is ~23
HR nismo is ~14
BIG QUESTION: Has anyone installed a nismo flywheel on their vq35hr? Is it as quiet as stock? ... or, i guess, can anyone with a 2007-2011 true nismo trim package chime in on how their car sounds?
link to buy hr nismo (or google the part num for more links).
http://www.outperformanceshop.com/pr...2310-vqhra.htm
here is the sound i don't want (JWT): http://youtu.be/YyFgTg57j0Y
flywheel weights:
HR stock is ~30
DE nismo is ~23
HR nismo is ~14
BIG QUESTION: Has anyone installed a nismo flywheel on their vq35hr? Is it as quiet as stock? ... or, i guess, can anyone with a 2007-2011 true nismo trim package chime in on how their car sounds?
link to buy hr nismo (or google the part num for more links).
http://www.outperformanceshop.com/pr...2310-vqhra.htm
here is the sound i don't want (JWT): http://youtu.be/YyFgTg57j0Y
My 07 needs a new clutch and i have been looking into replacing the flywheel as well. After listening to a few chatter clips from lightweight flywheels i've decided that i wouldn't be happy with the extra noise. I've read that people have installed the nismo flywheel on their DE and that it has no chatter... but the DE nismo flywheel is seemingly different than the hr nismo flywheel (from what i can gather).
flywheel weights:
HR stock is ~30
DE nismo is ~23
HR nismo is ~14
BIG QUESTION: Has anyone installed a nismo flywheel on their vq35hr? Is it as quiet as stock? ... or, i guess, can anyone with a 2007-2011 true nismo trim package chime in on how their car sounds?
link to buy hr nismo (or google the part num for more links).
http://www.outperformanceshop.com/pr...2310-vqhra.htm
here is the sound i don't want (JWT): http://youtu.be/YyFgTg57j0Y
flywheel weights:
HR stock is ~30
DE nismo is ~23
HR nismo is ~14
BIG QUESTION: Has anyone installed a nismo flywheel on their vq35hr? Is it as quiet as stock? ... or, i guess, can anyone with a 2007-2011 true nismo trim package chime in on how their car sounds?
link to buy hr nismo (or google the part num for more links).
http://www.outperformanceshop.com/pr...2310-vqhra.htm
here is the sound i don't want (JWT): http://youtu.be/YyFgTg57j0Y
Take a look:
Includes LWFW..heavier than HR Nismo..lighter than DE Nismo. This one (HR) is 18.5.
This kit does NOT include CSC..you use a STOCK HR CSC, since PP is not a DE type, it's HR design. At 18.5 lbs it shouldn't chatter and I've read accounts of no probems with this flywheel.
http://www.f1clutch.com/product.html...z-370z-g35-g37
Last edited by ronn1; Aug 21, 2011 at 06:54 PM.
Interesting info. I've never heard of a Nismo Flywheel for the HR's, but then again I haven't been looking.
I would strongly suggest including the ZSpeedPerformance HD Slave Cylinder, IF you're going with an aftermarket clutch.
It seems the varying levels of increased chatter in the aftermarket flywheels are linked to the weight of the flywheel. It also appears that going lighter causes increased chatter. You may also want to consider Southbend's flywheel for the HR (found on the same website as ZSpeedPerformance). Southbend claims that their flywheels will not "add the unwanted drive train/trans gear chatter noise associated with other LW aluminum flywheels".
Nismo and Exedy are great brands and may be what you're looking for. Just my thoughts.
I would strongly suggest including the ZSpeedPerformance HD Slave Cylinder, IF you're going with an aftermarket clutch.
It seems the varying levels of increased chatter in the aftermarket flywheels are linked to the weight of the flywheel. It also appears that going lighter causes increased chatter. You may also want to consider Southbend's flywheel for the HR (found on the same website as ZSpeedPerformance). Southbend claims that their flywheels will not "add the unwanted drive train/trans gear chatter noise associated with other LW aluminum flywheels".
Nismo and Exedy are great brands and may be what you're looking for. Just my thoughts.
weight has nothihng to do woth the chatter appearing tho. Although the lighter you get on an aftermarket, it does get louder... but you aint curing it unless youstick to OEM
OEM flywheel is a dual mass unit, ie separate pieces w springs and all sorts of REALLY weird looking stuff on it IMHO.
Looks very little like an aftermarket unit.
The flywheel doenst make the noise, its the gear/trans lash chattering away.
Even southbend will chatter being only a touch lighter... its stillnto dual mass.
THis chatter is totally not annoying unless you have a bone stock car.. i ahte rattles an squeaks w a passion, and it doesnt bother me at all.
OEM flywheel is a dual mass unit, ie separate pieces w springs and all sorts of REALLY weird looking stuff on it IMHO.
Looks very little like an aftermarket unit.
The flywheel doenst make the noise, its the gear/trans lash chattering away.
Even southbend will chatter being only a touch lighter... its stillnto dual mass.
THis chatter is totally not annoying unless you have a bone stock car.. i ahte rattles an squeaks w a passion, and it doesnt bother me at all.
weight has nothihng to do woth the chatter appearing tho. Although the lighter you get on an aftermarket, it does get louder... but you aint curing it unless youstick to OEM
OEM flywheel is a dual mass unit, ie separate pieces w springs and all sorts of REALLY weird looking stuff on it IMHO.
Looks very little like an aftermarket unit.
The flywheel doenst make the noise, its the gear/trans lash chattering away.
Even southbend will chatter being only a touch lighter... its stillnto dual mass.
THis chatter is totally not annoying unless you have a bone stock car.. i ahte rattles an squeaks w a passion, and it doesnt bother me at all.
OEM flywheel is a dual mass unit, ie separate pieces w springs and all sorts of REALLY weird looking stuff on it IMHO.
Looks very little like an aftermarket unit.
The flywheel doenst make the noise, its the gear/trans lash chattering away.
Even southbend will chatter being only a touch lighter... its stillnto dual mass.
THis chatter is totally not annoying unless you have a bone stock car.. i ahte rattles an squeaks w a passion, and it doesnt bother me at all.
Where did you hear this?>>
Even southbend will chatter being only a touch lighter
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from southbend ... and everyone i asked before i made my purchase.
Point beng is that once you go non OEM, your in a different animal altogether.. no chatter= stock.
aftermarket+=differing degrees of chatter, but its never going to go away fully unless your oem. etc etc.
Point beng is that once you go non OEM, your in a different animal altogether.. no chatter= stock.
aftermarket+=differing degrees of chatter, but its never going to go away fully unless your oem. etc etc.
from southbend ... and everyone i asked before i made my purchase.
Point beng is that once you go non OEM, your in a different animal altogether.. no chatter= stock.
aftermarket+=differing degrees of chatter, but its never going to go away fully unless your oem. etc etc.
Point beng is that once you go non OEM, your in a different animal altogether.. no chatter= stock.
aftermarket+=differing degrees of chatter, but its never going to go away fully unless your oem. etc etc.
Weight most definitely makes a difference in "AUDIBLE" chattering noise in the trans. I have installed quit a few South Bends and they make virtually ZERO noise. Install a JWT and it sounds like a cement mixer in the trans.
The reason they rattle is because it is not heavy enough to dampen the firing pulses of the engine which in turn rattles the gears in the trans.
I will get the Exedy Stage 1 when it's time.
Take a look:
Includes LWFW..heavier than HR Nismo..lighter than DE Nismo. This one (HR) is 18.5.
This kit does NOT include CSC..you use a STOCK HR CSC, since PP is not a DE type, it's HR design. At 18.5 lbs it shouldn't chatter and I've read accounts of no probems with this flywheel.
http://www.f1clutch.com/product.html...z-370z-g35-g37
Take a look:
Includes LWFW..heavier than HR Nismo..lighter than DE Nismo. This one (HR) is 18.5.
This kit does NOT include CSC..you use a STOCK HR CSC, since PP is not a DE type, it's HR design. At 18.5 lbs it shouldn't chatter and I've read accounts of no probems with this flywheel.
http://www.f1clutch.com/product.html...z-370z-g35-g37
I've used the Exedy setup several times, and it works great btw - one of the few aftermarket clutches to have a proper HR pressure plate, so the stock CSC can be retained. Although for those who want, afterkarket CSC's exist too
http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ne&prodid=3990
Last edited by Z1 Performance; Aug 26, 2011 at 09:10 AM.
it does chatter, though at 18.5 lbs, it will be quiter than some, louder than stock - reducing mass = increased noise, there is no way around that. One piece flywheels do a better job and insulating the noises vs multipiece ones as well
I've used the Exedy setup several times, and it works great btw - one of the few aftermarket clutches to have a proper HR pressure plate, so the stock CSC can be retained. Although for those who want, afterkarket CSC's exist too
http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ne&prodid=3990
I've used the Exedy setup several times, and it works great btw - one of the few aftermarket clutches to have a proper HR pressure plate, so the stock CSC can be retained. Although for those who want, afterkarket CSC's exist too
http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model...ne&prodid=3990
So we can order the HD CSC with an HR Plate (say stock kit and flywheel)...you then leave the adaptor ring off it. Good to know.
the chatter/noise/rattle/call it whatever you want that everyone talks about is heard in the ~1800-2600 ish rpm range. It's especially noticeable when moving from a dead stop (red light, stop sign). Depending how quickly you accelerate determines the length the noise last, but every single person with an aftermarket flywheel has it
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