Tire size recommendation
#1
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Tire size recommendation
Before I get started, I've looked and looked and looked and I know I'm going to get flamed for this. But here goes.
I'm looking at getting a set of Enkei RS05RR's for my base '07 front 18” x 9.5 +22 and rear 18” x 10.5 +25. I'm set on that.
I'm looking for a tire size combination that will give me the best handling without having to do any modifications such as fender rolling. One combination that I've heard may be ideal is front 265/35 and rear 295/35. What do y'all think? Any feedback would be great.
Now that I'm finally getting some debt paid off and since my dirty 30 is this July, I thought I would treat myself to a new set of shoes. I'll probably order these in May or June.
I'm looking at getting a set of Enkei RS05RR's for my base '07 front 18” x 9.5 +22 and rear 18” x 10.5 +25. I'm set on that.
I'm looking for a tire size combination that will give me the best handling without having to do any modifications such as fender rolling. One combination that I've heard may be ideal is front 265/35 and rear 295/35. What do y'all think? Any feedback would be great.
Now that I'm finally getting some debt paid off and since my dirty 30 is this July, I thought I would treat myself to a new set of shoes. I'll probably order these in May or June.
#2
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That sizing is spot on.
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Tire seems spot on, however, unless youre putting down serious power, i dont think youll need 295s.
Personally i would go with 255/285 just because its cheaper.
Personally i would go with 255/285 just because its cheaper.
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^^^ I generally agree with jhc on this as it works just fine.
However, I'm personally a tad more conservative on the sizes FOR MY USE (non-track, mountain/canyon run) as these are closest to stock heights.
Still maintains proper stagger for VDC where applicable and reduces speedo err to virtually nothing.
But more importantly FOR ME, that with the Z's weight, it is easier to get up to and maintain proper tire temperature with the slightly smaller contact patches - at least according to my pyrometer in MY type of driving. YMMV.
Yes, I may be picking nits here and there probably won't be a drastic temperature difference between the sizes you mention and these I've mentioned but just wanted to put out that additional reasoning for your consideration.
225 45% 18 25.97 Stock Reference Size
245 45% 18 26.68 Stock Reference Size
245 40% 18 25.72 Front-Alternate
255 35% 18 25.03
255 40% 18 26.03 Front-Alternate
255 45% 18 27.04
265 35% 18 25.30
265 40% 18 26.35
275 35% 18 25.58
275 40% 18 26.66 Rear-Alternate
285 30% 18 24.73
285 35% 18 25.85
285 40% 18 26.98 Rear-Alternate
295 30% 18 24.97
295 35% 18 26.13
295 40% 18 27.29
However, I'm personally a tad more conservative on the sizes FOR MY USE (non-track, mountain/canyon run) as these are closest to stock heights.
Still maintains proper stagger for VDC where applicable and reduces speedo err to virtually nothing.
But more importantly FOR ME, that with the Z's weight, it is easier to get up to and maintain proper tire temperature with the slightly smaller contact patches - at least according to my pyrometer in MY type of driving. YMMV.
Yes, I may be picking nits here and there probably won't be a drastic temperature difference between the sizes you mention and these I've mentioned but just wanted to put out that additional reasoning for your consideration.
225 45% 18 25.97 Stock Reference Size
245 45% 18 26.68 Stock Reference Size
245 40% 18 25.72 Front-Alternate
255 35% 18 25.03
255 40% 18 26.03 Front-Alternate
255 45% 18 27.04
265 35% 18 25.30
265 40% 18 26.35
275 35% 18 25.58
275 40% 18 26.66 Rear-Alternate
285 30% 18 24.73
285 35% 18 25.85
285 40% 18 26.98 Rear-Alternate
295 30% 18 24.97
295 35% 18 26.13
295 40% 18 27.29
Last edited by MicVelo; 04-13-2016 at 08:56 AM.
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You make a great point, Mic! I do recall coming from a much smaller 225/245/17" setup, felt like I lost some horses during acceleration. The increased rotating mass comes at a price.
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Yea but you guys are forgetting about his wheel size. If he goes too much smaller on 10.5 inch wide, thats going to be stretched and not as much sidewall, again demenishing performance in terms of handling.
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I do plan on adding on a bit more power. The Motordyne V2 that I have added some ponies and I'm thinking of doing their intake plenum and plenum spacers and dual Stillen CAI's.
My driving style is more canyon carving than track. Northern CA has some amazing roads. Also, Laguna Seca and Infineon are both close and I would like to take the Z out to each at least once. I may end up with the 255/285 setup. I want wide and sticky but I don't want to lose too much in the way of acceleration.
Forgot to mention that I'm getting Michelin Pilot Super Sports. From the reviews, it doesn't look like there's any better choice.
My driving style is more canyon carving than track. Northern CA has some amazing roads. Also, Laguna Seca and Infineon are both close and I would like to take the Z out to each at least once. I may end up with the 255/285 setup. I want wide and sticky but I don't want to lose too much in the way of acceleration.
Forgot to mention that I'm getting Michelin Pilot Super Sports. From the reviews, it doesn't look like there's any better choice.
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I honestly wouldn't mind for the tire to be slightly wider than my wheel to give them some protection against curb damage. Yea I know I should never have curb damage but sometimes you have to parallel park on the mean streets of SF.
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I do plan on adding on a bit more power. The Motordyne V2 that I have added some ponies and I'm thinking of doing their intake plenum and plenum spacers and dual Stillen CAI's.
My driving style is more canyon carving than track. Northern CA has some amazing roads. Also, Laguna Seca and Infineon are both close and I would like to take the Z out to each at least once. I may end up with the 255/285 setup. I want wide and sticky but I don't want to lose too much in the way of acceleration.
Forgot to mention that I'm getting Michelin Pilot Super Sports. From the reviews, it doesn't look like there's any better choice.
My driving style is more canyon carving than track. Northern CA has some amazing roads. Also, Laguna Seca and Infineon are both close and I would like to take the Z out to each at least once. I may end up with the 255/285 setup. I want wide and sticky but I don't want to lose too much in the way of acceleration.
Forgot to mention that I'm getting Michelin Pilot Super Sports. From the reviews, it doesn't look like there's any better choice.
For me, and my powerlevel, i found 275 all around on 9.5 to be perfect. But again, its just me and my car set up. The biggest factor is your wheels are a bide wider than needed, but then again form and function. Hard to have both haha
#10
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Stretch is a no go for me. Not even a little stretch. The tire must be at least flush with the rim. I can get a 10" for the rear. I just looked at the stock sizes and they're 8's up front and 8.5's in the back. So even if I do drop the width of the Enkei's they're still wider than stock.
#11
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The tire aize you pick are perfect for the wheels. But with heavier bigger wheels and tire combo, youll lose acceleration regardless. But no point in acceleration ability if all you do is spin.
Its a trade off. Just gotta try and find you preference with your driving
Its a trade off. Just gotta try and find you preference with your driving
#12
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Below is what I see for the weights of my current stock setup, wheels only.
Front
Size: 18x8.0
Offset: +30mm
Weight: 24.4
Tire: 225/45/18
Rear
Size: 18x8.5
Offset: +33mm
Weight: 25.8
Tire: 245/45/18
The 10.5" Enkei's are 21.25lbs. Looks like I'm saving weight with these beasts.
Front
Size: 18x8.0
Offset: +30mm
Weight: 24.4
Tire: 225/45/18
Rear
Size: 18x8.5
Offset: +33mm
Weight: 25.8
Tire: 245/45/18
The 10.5" Enkei's are 21.25lbs. Looks like I'm saving weight with these beasts.
#13
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Just found this is the aggressive wheel and tire section. Almost identical to what I'm trying to pull off.
[QUOTE=MBP 350z;10741136]Thanks to this thread, I got me some meaty tires in my Z. lots of good info in here.
Specs:
Front: 18x9.5 +22 wrapped in 275/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
Rear: 18X10.5 +22 wrapped in 295/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
No Rubbing, No rolled fenders, Stock suspension (not lowering it, I like the OEM height)
[QUOTE=MBP 350z;10741136]Thanks to this thread, I got me some meaty tires in my Z. lots of good info in here.
Specs:
Front: 18x9.5 +22 wrapped in 275/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
Rear: 18X10.5 +22 wrapped in 295/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
No Rubbing, No rolled fenders, Stock suspension (not lowering it, I like the OEM height)
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[QUOTE=superpilot04;10748105]Just found this is the aggressive wheel and tire section. Almost identical to what I'm trying to pull off.
I would opt for 265/35-18 front and 285/35-18 rear. But brand will dictate what is available. Pick your brand and make of tire. Then figure out sizes
Thanks to this thread, I got me some meaty tires in my Z. lots of good info in here.
Specs:
Front: 18x9.5 +22 wrapped in 275/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
Rear: 18X10.5 +22 wrapped in 295/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
No Rubbing, No rolled fenders, Stock suspension (not lowering it, I like the OEM height)
Specs:
Front: 18x9.5 +22 wrapped in 275/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
Rear: 18X10.5 +22 wrapped in 295/35/18 Potenza RE760 Sport
No Rubbing, No rolled fenders, Stock suspension (not lowering it, I like the OEM height)
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I'm looking at some Michelin Pilot Super Sports. How would I know about the sizing difference between brands?
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#18
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FTR, Michelins are about middle of the road on their measurements. Your 265 will measure pretty close to 265 from shoulder to shoulder at proper inflation on the standard measure wheel, which, in this case would be a 10" wheel.
If you are looking at Michelin PSS, I say "get 'em". Sweet tires - great ride, great grip, great response.
Last edited by MicVelo; 05-02-2016 at 10:27 AM.
#19
MPSS's are awesome. Just got a set myself. 265/35 and 275/35 on 19x9.5 and 19x10.5. I'll post pictures later but neither look stretched to me. Some might consider the 275s slightly stretched but I've seen stock Lexus' and Porsche's with more stretch look than my 275s on a 10.5 wheel.
If you prefer oversteer to understeer you should consider minimizing the stagger. That will help reduce understeer.
If you prefer oversteer to understeer you should consider minimizing the stagger. That will help reduce understeer.
#20
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Honestly? You're way overthinking this. Yes, there's some tires that are going to be a little wider (or narrower) given a specific width because that's based on how the mfgr measures it - just the effective width shoulder-shoulder or all the way over the shoulder. However, in the sizes you're looking at and on the wheels/offsets you've selected, you won't have a problem one way or the other.