Motor Trend Car of the year...
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Motor Trend Car of the year...
I believe it goes to the G35 Coupe and Sedan, what do you guys think? At first I thought it was going to the Z, but now i'm not so sure.
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I think they will go with the Z. They may even give it to both the Z and the G35 Coupe because they share the same platform. With all of the commotion in the car world that the Z has caused, I find it hard to think what other car they would pick. I guess we'll know in about a month...
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There's a lot of cars that will be looked at for car of the year by all the magazines. Mini Cooper & Mini Cooper S are still elligible I believe. You've also got the new Viper, Ferrari 575M, Ferrari Enzo, 350Z, G35, BMW 7 series, new Audi A4s, and a list of other ones.
IMO the Mini Coopers will take about 1/2 the car of the year awards, the Z & G35 will take one each (hopefully more), and finally the Viper will take one w/ a big payoff by Dodge (which is how a lot of car of theyear awards go).
The biggest thing hurting the Z is when it came out, late in the year. For 02 it's got a couple of oppurtunities and I believe some magazines will regard it as new for 03 but by then there's a whole slew of new cars set to come out including the STI WRX, EVO 7, RX-8, GTO, & others.
I'd like to think I'm wrong but from previous Car of the Year Awards this practice seems to be the norm.
IMO the Mini Coopers will take about 1/2 the car of the year awards, the Z & G35 will take one each (hopefully more), and finally the Viper will take one w/ a big payoff by Dodge (which is how a lot of car of theyear awards go).
The biggest thing hurting the Z is when it came out, late in the year. For 02 it's got a couple of oppurtunities and I believe some magazines will regard it as new for 03 but by then there's a whole slew of new cars set to come out including the STI WRX, EVO 7, RX-8, GTO, & others.
I'd like to think I'm wrong but from previous Car of the Year Awards this practice seems to be the norm.
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Forgot about the Mini...
I may be wrong about the way cars are judged but I dont think the Sti, Evo VIII, RX-8,etc.. will be out in time for most of the 03 Car of the Year, 10 Best etc.. I think they usually decide the winners early in the year. I would thinik all of the cars I mentioned aboove would be included in 04 contests. I could be wrong though, I'm pretty new to the car scene. (Only been following cars seriously for about two years)
I may be wrong about the way cars are judged but I dont think the Sti, Evo VIII, RX-8,etc.. will be out in time for most of the 03 Car of the Year, 10 Best etc.. I think they usually decide the winners early in the year. I would thinik all of the cars I mentioned aboove would be included in 04 contests. I could be wrong though, I'm pretty new to the car scene. (Only been following cars seriously for about two years)
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The Mini could've been Car of the Year if BMW hadn't betrayed its heritage the same way VW did with the Beetle. The Mini (as well as the Beetle) is supposed to be a car as affordable as a Hyundai, but instead starts at $17,000.
It also doesn't in my opinion make sense to award Car of The Year to the Viper, Enzo, 575M, or any similar ultra-expensive car. How many people get to drive or can even contemplate owning a 575M? And similarly, how much does that redefine the genre? Yes, it's a little Z-centric, but the Z forces (or should force) manufacturers to reconsider what goes into their sports cars and who they're intended for.
Here's who I think are the front runners for Car Of The Year:
BMW 7-Series
Toyota Camry
Audi A4
Infiniti G35
It also doesn't in my opinion make sense to award Car of The Year to the Viper, Enzo, 575M, or any similar ultra-expensive car. How many people get to drive or can even contemplate owning a 575M? And similarly, how much does that redefine the genre? Yes, it's a little Z-centric, but the Z forces (or should force) manufacturers to reconsider what goes into their sports cars and who they're intended for.
Here's who I think are the front runners for Car Of The Year:
BMW 7-Series
Toyota Camry
Audi A4
Infiniti G35
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the sedan will take it, I have never seen a 2 door sports car take it since it is targeted at such a small group. otherwise if your including sportscars, enzo wins.
but the G35 sedan is just huge, won EVERYTHING that its been compared in. I dont think youll see any of the cars listed here, except possibly the GTO... as car of the year, they are all very performance oriented, but their reliability and luxury lag behind alot. who knows
I wouldnt want to make a decision like that.
but the G35 sedan is just huge, won EVERYTHING that its been compared in. I dont think youll see any of the cars listed here, except possibly the GTO... as car of the year, they are all very performance oriented, but their reliability and luxury lag behind alot. who knows
I wouldnt want to make a decision like that.
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Re: Motor Trend Car of the year...
Originally posted by z461
I believe it goes to the G35 Coupe and Sedan, what do you guys think? At first I thought it was going to the Z, but now i'm not so sure.
I believe it goes to the G35 Coupe and Sedan, what do you guys think? At first I thought it was going to the Z, but now i'm not so sure.
T in Tupelo said all that.....
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i think the honda accord might get it. no flames please, but it's been getting nothing but really, really, REALLY good reviews. i hope it doesn't, but well i think it will.
i do believe the 350z has a chance though, with all the ripples its been making. they did give it to the corvette a few years back...
i do believe the 350z has a chance though, with all the ripples its been making. they did give it to the corvette a few years back...
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Originally posted by knihc2008
i think the honda accord might get it. no flames please, but it's been getting nothing but really, really, REALLY good reviews. i hope it doesn't, but well i think it will.
i do believe the 350z has a chance though, with all the ripples its been making. they did give it to the corvette a few years back...
i think the honda accord might get it. no flames please, but it's been getting nothing but really, really, REALLY good reviews. i hope it doesn't, but well i think it will.
i do believe the 350z has a chance though, with all the ripples its been making. they did give it to the corvette a few years back...
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Z - CAR OF THE YEAR - 1971
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ares
[B]the sedan will take it, I have never seen a 2 door sports car take it since it is targeted at such a small group. otherwise if your including sportscars, enzo wins.
You must be under 30......
The Datsun 240Z was the overwhelming "Car of the Year" in 1971.
70 zcar (I am over 30!)
78 zcar (fast)
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[B]the sedan will take it, I have never seen a 2 door sports car take it since it is targeted at such a small group. otherwise if your including sportscars, enzo wins.
You must be under 30......
The Datsun 240Z was the overwhelming "Car of the Year" in 1971.
70 zcar (I am over 30!)
78 zcar (fast)
84 zcar (turbo)
03 zcar (coming!)
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Re: Motor Trend Car of the year...
Originally posted by z461
I believe it goes to the G35 Coupe and Sedan, what do you guys think? At first I thought it was going to the Z, but now i'm not so sure.
I believe it goes to the G35 Coupe and Sedan, what do you guys think? At first I thought it was going to the Z, but now i'm not so sure.
There was a new coupe sitting there so I went over to check out the price. They added $9K for a 19 inch wheel package on an automatic coupe. So will all the other things that they added in, the price tag was.......... are you ready for this... $49,000 !!!!!
Damn!! I drove away very happy in my Z
Drive a tight line !!
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Originally posted by MannishBoy
Mini is new everywhere this year. It is an all new car.
Mini is new everywhere this year. It is an all new car.
Well, MannishBoy, the mini is the same car I drove in Italy in '74-76 when staioned there in the Army. I am sure it has been modernized but it is the same bodystyle.
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Originally posted by 6kLaunch
I went to Cerritos Infiniti today to check out the Coupes they have in stock. The Manager saw my Z when I pulled in and stalked me. We started talking, he said that they were just told that the 350Z is Motor Trends car of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!! He said he just found out and was very happy about it .
There was a new coupe sitting there so I went over to check out the price. They added $9K for a 19 inch wheel package on an automatic coupe. So will all the other things that they added in, the price tag was.......... are you ready for this... $49,000 !!!!!
Damn!! I drove away very happy in my Z
Drive a tight line !!
I went to Cerritos Infiniti today to check out the Coupes they have in stock. The Manager saw my Z when I pulled in and stalked me. We started talking, he said that they were just told that the 350Z is Motor Trends car of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!! He said he just found out and was very happy about it .
There was a new coupe sitting there so I went over to check out the price. They added $9K for a 19 inch wheel package on an automatic coupe. So will all the other things that they added in, the price tag was.......... are you ready for this... $49,000 !!!!!
Damn!! I drove away very happy in my Z
Drive a tight line !!
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grberet,
Great screen-name, I hope that means you are one of the elite few... I am an Infantry officer who has a soft spot for Z's...
6Klaunch...the absolute BEST avatar I have seen!!! I love Chris Farley... where did you find it? I hope it is MT COTY for 03. It deserves it.
I can't wait till I get my MT COTY mag!!!
Great screen-name, I hope that means you are one of the elite few... I am an Infantry officer who has a soft spot for Z's...
6Klaunch...the absolute BEST avatar I have seen!!! I love Chris Farley... where did you find it? I hope it is MT COTY for 03. It deserves it.
I can't wait till I get my MT COTY mag!!!
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I think the 350Z is definitely deserving of a car of the year award, but the Motor Trend COTY is so ridiculous I wouldn't worry about it if you don't get it. It has more to do with how much the carmaker will advertise with the little motor trend logo than it does the merits of the car. If you don't belive me, check out some of the prior winners like the wonderful early 90's Chevrolet Caprice Classic and Chevy Citation from the 80's.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Motor Trend Car of the year...
Originally posted by grberet
Well, MannishBoy, the mini is the same car I drove in Italy in '74-76 when staioned there in the Army. I am sure it has been modernized but it is the same bodystyle.
Well, MannishBoy, the mini is the same car I drove in Italy in '74-76 when staioned there in the Army. I am sure it has been modernized but it is the same bodystyle.
This particular Mini was developed by Range Rover, after buying the Mini brand (which had been produced basically unchanged for decades). BMW bought Range Rover, continued the development of the Mini, then sold off most of the rest of the company.
I think the current car came out in Europe slightly ahead of the one in the states, but this is not the same car from 74.
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See the pics here for what was around in 74:
http://www.manhattanminis.com/inventory.htm
Or, read the history here:
http://www.mini35.co.uk/history.html
The new one is quite a bit bigger than the original.
http://www.manhattanminis.com/inventory.htm
Or, read the history here:
http://www.mini35.co.uk/history.html
The new one is quite a bit bigger than the original.