A note to my fans, & hp only valid if other fixed resistances accounted for
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A note to my fans, & hp only valid if other fixed resistances accounted for
As a newbie, I have been unimpressed with this gallery. The ignorance is res ipsa loqitur in re to the replies I have received. But I find the general lack of consideration most distasteful.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
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Re: A note to my fans, & hp only valid if other fixed resistances accounted for
Originally posted by redturbo
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
And it's spelt "replies", professor
Josh
Neither a gearhead nor a jerk
uhhh Im not saying I totally follow your post here, but I know a good bit of it, and you seem to have basicly spouted off a bunch of physics laws that pretty much ever reaction in the world is incorporated into, then start talking abou standard temp and pressure, which Im not sure what this matters... actually when was the last time an engine operated at STP? 1atm? not often, an 273 kelvin? ummm did you freeze the car first?
Id like to see you answer your own questions, cause you didnt really ask much...
Id like to see you answer your own questions, cause you didnt really ask much...
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i don't mean to be an a**hole but....genetically i cant help it
i am a nuclear power plant operator and somewhat surprised that other people even know those laws and equations exist.... but...turbulent flow is only desirable in a heat transfer medium because you want even mixing of the fluid and do not want to get a stagnant layer of water (or fluid) along the outer wall..therefore when flow is the most desired aspect... laminar flow is more beneficial due to the higher fluid velocity at the center of the pipe versus a pipe with turbulent flow (reynolds number depending of course)
laminar= > (higher center flow)
turbulent= ] (more even mixing promoting better heat transfer
or "Q" for you geek types)
this is why in high horsepower engines a minimal number of bends in the exhaust is desired to limit the amount of resistance to flow and also to decrease the probability of turbulent flow in the pipe and in turn slowing exhaust flow
all of these problems can be solved by cutting the pipes off at the headers ... thank you
i am a nuclear power plant operator and somewhat surprised that other people even know those laws and equations exist.... but...turbulent flow is only desirable in a heat transfer medium because you want even mixing of the fluid and do not want to get a stagnant layer of water (or fluid) along the outer wall..therefore when flow is the most desired aspect... laminar flow is more beneficial due to the higher fluid velocity at the center of the pipe versus a pipe with turbulent flow (reynolds number depending of course)
laminar= > (higher center flow)
turbulent= ] (more even mixing promoting better heat transfer
or "Q" for you geek types)
this is why in high horsepower engines a minimal number of bends in the exhaust is desired to limit the amount of resistance to flow and also to decrease the probability of turbulent flow in the pipe and in turn slowing exhaust flow
all of these problems can be solved by cutting the pipes off at the headers ... thank you
Last edited by Aldous; Nov 4, 2002 at 02:07 PM.
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Wow! I don't like to be confrontational but that post was hilarious! I love it when people think they can "outsmart" people with their intellectual RAMBLING! Really folks, this is the type of person who was probably picked on alot as a kid and likes to take out his aggression on the computer while wearing his bullet-proof pocket protector......who is this guy kidding...get real! Haha!
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Re: A note to my fans, & hp only valid if other fixed resistances accounted for
Originally posted by redturbo
As a newbie, I have been unimpressed with this gallery. The ignorance is res ipsa loqitur in re to the replies I have received. But I find the general lack of consideration most distasteful.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
As a newbie, I have been unimpressed with this gallery. The ignorance is res ipsa loqitur in re to the replies I have received. But I find the general lack of consideration most distasteful.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
I find you calling the forum members here ignorant, and your wanna-be eloquent little post with terms you looked up on PHYSICSFORDUMMIES.COM, very distasteful.
Get a life, and drive your Z! If you don't have one, either get one or keep dreaming.
yes this is the same guy that claimed to have a track model and it "needed more power" it is unresponsive and weak.
he also installed a WOLF intake(I think that was the name) and he claims it helped responsivness and all that, but he has no "scientific" dyno proof, but I guess that doesnt matter? cause his butt dyno is up along the lines of this science.
yes I think I shall tilt my vote to the side of troll... tho certainly not the garden variety.
he also installed a WOLF intake(I think that was the name) and he claims it helped responsivness and all that, but he has no "scientific" dyno proof, but I guess that doesnt matter? cause his butt dyno is up along the lines of this science.
yes I think I shall tilt my vote to the side of troll... tho certainly not the garden variety.
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Re: A note to my fans, & hp only valid if other fixed resistances accounted for
Originally posted by redturbo
As a newbie, I have been unimpressed with this gallery. The ignorance is res ipsa loqitur in re to the replies I have received. But I find the general lack of consideration most distasteful.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
As a newbie, I have been unimpressed with this gallery. The ignorance is res ipsa loqitur in re to the replies I have received. But I find the general lack of consideration most distasteful.
In reply to the several inconsiderate professors:
perhaps you can illuminate the many forum members that are not as intellectual as you as to the reasons why hp measurements may not be valid to show improvements in filtercharger or exhaust mods, or perhaps why they are. Here's a clue for you pseudo-scientists, check the ramifications of Bernoulli's law, Venturi's effect and discuss how the all important Poiseuille's law comes into play. And when you think you can play ball with me there, then we can discuss how vortex formation reduces resistance in nonconstant fluids.
Consider these questions under Standard Temperature and Pressure conditions.
Think cfm, not always hp in this regard.
The most basic gearheads understand why complete stage I upgrading is generally required for reliable hp, and torque numbers.
Thanks for the considerate replys from the real gearheads and the considerate replies from the fanatics.
Be on edge.
Go troll somewhere else
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i cant believe i didnt get any points for smackin around this trolls bulls*** theories with hard facts... c'mon guys open up the pointbooks a little...xmas is drawing near and you don't want santa to think youare mean
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My advice??
Pull back your foreskin......You'll hear better!
Quit being such a ********...
If you think you're so damn smart try doing a total hip replacement ( Dr. Bonz) or managing someone critical living off a ventilator (me). There are a helluva lot of bright and friendly people on this site who are helpful and down-to-earth so find a new place to *****...be a part of the solution rather than the problem!
Ok...I feel better now
Pull back your foreskin......You'll hear better!
Quit being such a ********...
If you think you're so damn smart try doing a total hip replacement ( Dr. Bonz) or managing someone critical living off a ventilator (me). There are a helluva lot of bright and friendly people on this site who are helpful and down-to-earth so find a new place to *****...be a part of the solution rather than the problem!
Ok...I feel better now
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No offence intended, but some taken.
Some excellent replies! To the nuclear power plant op-laminar flow is where I was heading. Laminar voritical flow, reduces resistance to that flow and has the additional effect of reducing lateral wall pressure. Thats a good thing for an intake system.
The equations are intimately related. I have had an occassion to use them quite frequently-with application to critically ill ventilator patients.
Yes, a law student, also PhD physiologist with interest in hemodynamics in low flow mediums, and gas related applications in the lung.
Yes, bad typo-if thats what people really care about.
I'm looking for friendly well mannered sports car enthusiasts, not excessive tech talk from a few common individuals who want to "school" me.
The post was mainly for the not so bright, and certainly not so kind.
Back to work.
Peace
The equations are intimately related. I have had an occassion to use them quite frequently-with application to critically ill ventilator patients.
Yes, a law student, also PhD physiologist with interest in hemodynamics in low flow mediums, and gas related applications in the lung.
Yes, bad typo-if thats what people really care about.
I'm looking for friendly well mannered sports car enthusiasts, not excessive tech talk from a few common individuals who want to "school" me.
The post was mainly for the not so bright, and certainly not so kind.
Back to work.
Peace
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Hey was that me that posted some info on what a Smoe chart is? Yes, it was. Why put down folks that went out and bought a Z? Maybe we should start a new religion bow down and just worship some intellects? Take your high mindedness some where else oh great one! In the mean tme I'll be having some serious fun driving my New 350Z!
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I don't know if he's really a troll or not, but if you guys value any outsider's perspective, you guys are treating him like ****.
The simple fact that someone wants to make his/her car faster and you guys jump all over them really sucks. I'm also a newbie here. I currently own a camaro, i'm 19 years old, and i'm saving up to put a nice downpayment for a new Z. The thought of the treatment that some people are getting is appalling. I for one will want to mod my car once I get it, just like i have done to this one. That's my choice. Yes, low 14's to high 13's is not fast enough for me, i want to go faster.
Either way, just my .02 cents.
Flame away if you'd like, but i'm not here to start problems, just giving an outsider's opinion.
JJ
The simple fact that someone wants to make his/her car faster and you guys jump all over them really sucks. I'm also a newbie here. I currently own a camaro, i'm 19 years old, and i'm saving up to put a nice downpayment for a new Z. The thought of the treatment that some people are getting is appalling. I for one will want to mod my car once I get it, just like i have done to this one. That's my choice. Yes, low 14's to high 13's is not fast enough for me, i want to go faster.
Either way, just my .02 cents.
Flame away if you'd like, but i'm not here to start problems, just giving an outsider's opinion.
JJ
not fast enough? ok thats your opinion, and thats fine, but to say the car is not fast period and not responsive is a lie, or the person is misinformed, this car has done 13.8sec quarter miles. that is pretty damn fast. yes it can go faster, but that is a different story.
its also not appreciated when someone comes on here and spouts off physics laws like they pertain to something and that we are morons for not understanding it. I do not know what your area of study is, but regaurdless of understanding, it is quite obvious that this person sat down with a physics book and started writing down a bunch of crap. cause ya know what, unless this was your area of study, you would not know this, and since he himself claims to be a law student, I dont think physics is at the top of his list.
its also not appreciated when someone comes on here and spouts off physics laws like they pertain to something and that we are morons for not understanding it. I do not know what your area of study is, but regaurdless of understanding, it is quite obvious that this person sat down with a physics book and started writing down a bunch of crap. cause ya know what, unless this was your area of study, you would not know this, and since he himself claims to be a law student, I dont think physics is at the top of his list.