difference in auto and stick
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difference in auto and stick
Im just curious about the difference in the auto vs stick when it comes to the amount of power difference and torque. If there is a difference is it noticble wen ur hitting the throttle. Ive only been in a 6 speed and i just was curious if they feels the same. Thanks.
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Originally posted by JonsilvZ
When your already in gear its the same. But when shifting the manual has a snappy feel when dropping the clutch.
When your already in gear its the same. But when shifting the manual has a snappy feel when dropping the clutch.
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I do drive my Z hard so I put it in manual mode. The Z has plenty of low and mid end tq. But when you go past 4500rpm the valve timing kicks in and pulls harder to redline.
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even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
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Originally posted by julian
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
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Originally posted by JonsilvZ
Ive raced a friend of mine who has a 6spd Z. We did a 3rd gear roll. Right at the instant we were even. But later on he started to creep fwd. Its because of the gearing. This happened when I was stock.
Ive raced a friend of mine who has a 6spd Z. We did a 3rd gear roll. Right at the instant we were even. But later on he started to creep fwd. Its because of the gearing. This happened when I was stock.
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
Exactly, we have a shorter gear for better accelleration (sp), but it hurts us in the top end.
Exactly, we have a shorter gear for better accelleration (sp), but it hurts us in the top end.
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Originally posted by julian
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
The only significant difference between the 6MT and the 5AT is the final drive ratio. The 6MT comes stock with a shorter FD than the 5AT so on a dyno the 6MT will have a slight advantage on the high end of the RPMs. The 5AT in the mid and low ends have better torque management than the 6MT because of the torque converter. Both the 5AT and the 6MT are about equal in overall performance. In the Z, it's all about the driver.
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Originally posted by julian
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
even if it's in gear the auto will still be slower. more transmission loss through the fluid. the manual will obviously be faster overall since it has shorter steps between shifts.
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Originally posted by Risk
+1 ....I traded a G35c 5at in for my 350z 6mt. The pull is the same with both trannys, what makes the 6mt so much quicker though (and yes, it IS quicker) is the addition of 1 more gear
+1 ....I traded a G35c 5at in for my 350z 6mt. The pull is the same with both trannys, what makes the 6mt so much quicker though (and yes, it IS quicker) is the addition of 1 more gear
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Originally posted by Poison123
I think more than a few 5AT have proven their faster in the straight line than 6MT. Stock to Stock.
I think more than a few 5AT have proven their faster in the straight line than 6MT. Stock to Stock.
LOL...now THATS a stretch man.
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
Actually in a DRAG race 9 outta 10 auto's are quicker.
Actually in a DRAG race 9 outta 10 auto's are quicker.
However, I could imagine that a fair # of people might not be able to drive their 6MT well enough to beat a guy w/an auto since the latter guy doesn't have to do that much work.
Auto owners will have the benefit of consistency though and if you're bracket racing, it'd really help. (I've never done bracket racing, only straight drags [grudge matches?].)
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Actually in a DRAG race 9 outta 10 auto's are quicker.
Actually in a DRAG race 9 outta 10 auto's are quicker.
It is true that the automatic shifts faster, but the difference in gearing makes the manual a couple of ticks quicker. (Once again providing the driver is experienced).
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well theoreticly, stick is faster. no matter what, that torque converter is spinning in the fluid, along with lots of other stuff; and that is drag. go dyno a automatic and come back telling me its the same, its roughly 15-20hp less actually. and that is not particularly debatable.
in the real world, an auto shifts very quick, and never misses, for that reason, its faster. and when you get into race type situations, the shifts come by so fast, youd never get them done. an auto is nescessary with very tight shifting. top fuel dragsters are automatic to my knowledge. try shifting through the gears in 5sec... no way. their shifts are damn near instant though; in regular driving, youd get tossed out of your seats if you tranny shifted that fast.
in the real world, an auto shifts very quick, and never misses, for that reason, its faster. and when you get into race type situations, the shifts come by so fast, youd never get them done. an auto is nescessary with very tight shifting. top fuel dragsters are automatic to my knowledge. try shifting through the gears in 5sec... no way. their shifts are damn near instant though; in regular driving, youd get tossed out of your seats if you tranny shifted that fast.