Tire Feathering response from dealer
Tire Feathering response from dealer
What would be the best or appropriate response to them?
Nissan Motor Corp is sorry to hear that you have been
inconvenienced by noise experienced with your 2003 Nissan 350Z.
Regarding the noise from your front tire area, Nissan Guam did perform
the Nissan Technical Bulletin (TSB) by replacing your two front tires and performing an alignment as required for the condition your vehicle was exhibiting. Nissan did identify there was a problem resulting from the original tires and alignment which is why the TSB was created.
As per the tire noise reoccurring after a period of time, you should be
aware of the 350Z tire conditions. 350Z model vehicles have high
performance tires that are of different sizes from front to rear and use
a fairly high tire pressure. The 350Z tires are high performance and
use a different compound or composite to make this vehicle handle and
corner extraordinarily well, and handle higher vehicle speeds for which
the vehicle was intended. Moreover, with all high performance tires,
wear and other tire conditions will increase depending on the operators
driving habits and tire pressure. The down fall with all performance
tires of different makes, models and sizes in the front and rear is that
they can not be rotated, neither from front to back or crossed due to
the difference sizes and being directional tires. Your vehicle will
exhibit tire wear and possibly some noise from the tires due to the lack
of rotation that that would typically be performed on a vehicle equipped
with the same size tires all around.
However, since the tires can not be rotated in the conventional fashion,
there is an alternative to reduce some of the wear, noise and increase
the life of your tires. The procedure requires that the tires and rims
be removed, tires dismounted, rotated and reinstalled to the opposite
rim with the directional arrows facing forward and rebalanced and then
finally installed back on the vehicle to get more equal wear and life
out of the tires. However, this can cause the vehicle to feel slightly
different at first in it's handling characteristics after performing
this procedure depending on the tire wear that may already exist in the
tire. Radial tires after they have been on the road and used for a
while create what is called "Tire memory", meaning the way the tire sets
itself and begins to set a wear pattern; more or less the tire forms
itself to that position or condition it is been running internally thru
the steel belt structure and side walls, by changing the tires around
can sometimes change the way vehicle may feel and handle. This is not a
warranty type of service it is paid by the customer as a maintenance
job.
I hope this was not to confusing for you and assist you with the tire
maintenance of your 350Z. This is the only recommendation I can advise
you of to better the tire life, wear and tire noise you may be
exhibiting in your vehicle. If you have any question please do not
hesitate to contact me.
Nissan Motor Corp is sorry to hear that you have been
inconvenienced by noise experienced with your 2003 Nissan 350Z.
Regarding the noise from your front tire area, Nissan Guam did perform
the Nissan Technical Bulletin (TSB) by replacing your two front tires and performing an alignment as required for the condition your vehicle was exhibiting. Nissan did identify there was a problem resulting from the original tires and alignment which is why the TSB was created.
As per the tire noise reoccurring after a period of time, you should be
aware of the 350Z tire conditions. 350Z model vehicles have high
performance tires that are of different sizes from front to rear and use
a fairly high tire pressure. The 350Z tires are high performance and
use a different compound or composite to make this vehicle handle and
corner extraordinarily well, and handle higher vehicle speeds for which
the vehicle was intended. Moreover, with all high performance tires,
wear and other tire conditions will increase depending on the operators
driving habits and tire pressure. The down fall with all performance
tires of different makes, models and sizes in the front and rear is that
they can not be rotated, neither from front to back or crossed due to
the difference sizes and being directional tires. Your vehicle will
exhibit tire wear and possibly some noise from the tires due to the lack
of rotation that that would typically be performed on a vehicle equipped
with the same size tires all around.
However, since the tires can not be rotated in the conventional fashion,
there is an alternative to reduce some of the wear, noise and increase
the life of your tires. The procedure requires that the tires and rims
be removed, tires dismounted, rotated and reinstalled to the opposite
rim with the directional arrows facing forward and rebalanced and then
finally installed back on the vehicle to get more equal wear and life
out of the tires. However, this can cause the vehicle to feel slightly
different at first in it's handling characteristics after performing
this procedure depending on the tire wear that may already exist in the
tire. Radial tires after they have been on the road and used for a
while create what is called "Tire memory", meaning the way the tire sets
itself and begins to set a wear pattern; more or less the tire forms
itself to that position or condition it is been running internally thru
the steel belt structure and side walls, by changing the tires around
can sometimes change the way vehicle may feel and handle. This is not a
warranty type of service it is paid by the customer as a maintenance
job.
I hope this was not to confusing for you and assist you with the tire
maintenance of your 350Z. This is the only recommendation I can advise
you of to better the tire life, wear and tire noise you may be
exhibiting in your vehicle. If you have any question please do not
hesitate to contact me.
Originally Posted by mikerz
As per the tire noise reoccurring after a period of time, you should be
aware of the 350Z tire conditions. 350Z model vehicles have high
performance tires that are of different sizes from front to rear and use
a fairly high tire pressure. The 350Z tires are high performance and
use a different compound or composite to make this vehicle handle and
corner extraordinarily well, and handle higher vehicle speeds for which
the vehicle was intended. Moreover, with all high performance tires,
wear and other tire conditions will increase depending on the operators
driving habits and tire pressure. The down fall with all performance
tires of different makes, models and sizes in the front and rear is that
they can not be rotated, neither from front to back or crossed due to
the difference sizes and being directional tires. Your vehicle will
exhibit tire wear and possibly some noise from the tires due to the lack
of rotation that that would typically be performed on a vehicle equipped
with the same size tires all around.
However, since the tires can not be rotated in the conventional fashion,
there is an alternative to reduce some of the wear, noise and increase
the life of your tires. The procedure requires that the tires and rims
be removed, tires dismounted, rotated and reinstalled to the opposite
rim with the directional arrows facing forward and rebalanced and then
finally installed back on the vehicle to get more equal wear and life
out of the tires. However, this can cause the vehicle to feel slightly
different at first in it's handling characteristics after performing
this procedure depending on the tire wear that may already exist in the
tire. Radial tires after they have been on the road and used for a
while create what is called "Tire memory", meaning the way the tire sets
itself and begins to set a wear pattern; more or less the tire forms
itself to that position or condition it is been running internally thru
the steel belt structure and side walls, by changing the tires around
can sometimes change the way vehicle may feel and handle. This is not a
warranty type of service it is paid by the customer as a maintenance
job.
aware of the 350Z tire conditions. 350Z model vehicles have high
performance tires that are of different sizes from front to rear and use
a fairly high tire pressure. The 350Z tires are high performance and
use a different compound or composite to make this vehicle handle and
corner extraordinarily well, and handle higher vehicle speeds for which
the vehicle was intended. Moreover, with all high performance tires,
wear and other tire conditions will increase depending on the operators
driving habits and tire pressure. The down fall with all performance
tires of different makes, models and sizes in the front and rear is that
they can not be rotated, neither from front to back or crossed due to
the difference sizes and being directional tires. Your vehicle will
exhibit tire wear and possibly some noise from the tires due to the lack
of rotation that that would typically be performed on a vehicle equipped
with the same size tires all around.
However, since the tires can not be rotated in the conventional fashion,
there is an alternative to reduce some of the wear, noise and increase
the life of your tires. The procedure requires that the tires and rims
be removed, tires dismounted, rotated and reinstalled to the opposite
rim with the directional arrows facing forward and rebalanced and then
finally installed back on the vehicle to get more equal wear and life
out of the tires. However, this can cause the vehicle to feel slightly
different at first in it's handling characteristics after performing
this procedure depending on the tire wear that may already exist in the
tire. Radial tires after they have been on the road and used for a
while create what is called "Tire memory", meaning the way the tire sets
itself and begins to set a wear pattern; more or less the tire forms
itself to that position or condition it is been running internally thru
the steel belt structure and side walls, by changing the tires around
can sometimes change the way vehicle may feel and handle. This is not a
warranty type of service it is paid by the customer as a maintenance
job.
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While the letter is very carefully written and seems logical it really is nothing but an attempt to pass off the problem as "normal", which of course it is not.
First, not all 03' Z's had the problem. Second, some of the 03' Z' did respond to careful alignment. Third, the problem appears to have been solved in the later model years. I say appears because a few owners of the later models have the problem, if what I read in this forum is accurate.
The feathering problem does not occur during aggressive driving. It occurs at speeds lower than freeway speeds. This has been noted several times here and I have verified it myself. I also verified that aggressive driving lessens the feathering.
Take it to your base legal staff and see what thet think.
First, not all 03' Z's had the problem. Second, some of the 03' Z' did respond to careful alignment. Third, the problem appears to have been solved in the later model years. I say appears because a few owners of the later models have the problem, if what I read in this forum is accurate.
The feathering problem does not occur during aggressive driving. It occurs at speeds lower than freeway speeds. This has been noted several times here and I have verified it myself. I also verified that aggressive driving lessens the feathering.
Take it to your base legal staff and see what thet think.
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If my logic is correct, if the front end is aligned properly, the tires should wear evenly inside to out. Switching the tire (left to right and right to left) is at worst pointless. Now if you have uneven wear, switching the tires makes sense, but wouldn't this clue you to correcting the alignment? Am I wrong here?
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