MPG: The new Corvette vs 350z Mad as Hell
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Originally Posted by zownz
Hmm almost twice the engine size and only 100hp more.
I think the Vette is a home run for GM, but not enough to make up for the Impala. Drive an Impala and then a Camry and you can see the real challenges for GM.
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Originally Posted by zownz
does not match up good at all. They still use the same technology like they had 10 years ago. Little change here and there..thats it
Originally Posted by VinUnleaded
Would the experts please confirm or deny what I just saw on the Speed Channel.
Some guy was test driving the new Corvette, he said it gets 19 Mpg City and 28 Mpg Hwy!
I checked my window sticker on my 350Z and sure enough it says almost the same, i.e. 19 City and 29 Hwy,in fact Edmunds has the Vette with better highway mileage!
NOW WAIT A MINUTE HERE!
The new Vette has 400hp compared to the 350Z's 289hp!
What the hell is Nissan doing? They cant make a 289HP sports car with better gas mileage than one with 400hp?!?!
I always made fun of American Sports cars...NO MORE, I used to think the Japanese automakers were more technically advanced than the Americans...NO MORE.
You mean to tell me GM has produced a Sports car with 111hp more than the Nissan 350Z and the same or better gas mileage.
Tell you what....I dont care if the Vette is $50,000+...thats great horsepower, great looks, and great mpg.
All well worth the 50K.
OMG, no wonder Nissan can't figure out the tire feathering problems, has a mod unfriendly ECU, and an uneven air flow Plenum to the front two cyclinders.
Their idiots!
I am so pissed. And eating crow.
I guess the Americans do make better sports cars than the Japanese.
I should have bought a freaking vette with gas mileage like that!
Argh (screams and jumps off bridge).
Some guy was test driving the new Corvette, he said it gets 19 Mpg City and 28 Mpg Hwy!
I checked my window sticker on my 350Z and sure enough it says almost the same, i.e. 19 City and 29 Hwy,in fact Edmunds has the Vette with better highway mileage!
NOW WAIT A MINUTE HERE!
The new Vette has 400hp compared to the 350Z's 289hp!
What the hell is Nissan doing? They cant make a 289HP sports car with better gas mileage than one with 400hp?!?!
I always made fun of American Sports cars...NO MORE, I used to think the Japanese automakers were more technically advanced than the Americans...NO MORE.
You mean to tell me GM has produced a Sports car with 111hp more than the Nissan 350Z and the same or better gas mileage.
Tell you what....I dont care if the Vette is $50,000+...thats great horsepower, great looks, and great mpg.
All well worth the 50K.
OMG, no wonder Nissan can't figure out the tire feathering problems, has a mod unfriendly ECU, and an uneven air flow Plenum to the front two cyclinders.
Their idiots!
I am so pissed. And eating crow.
I guess the Americans do make better sports cars than the Japanese.
I should have bought a freaking vette with gas mileage like that!
Argh (screams and jumps off bridge).
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...dcore/0405phr_
gmdod/
It's actually a technologically smart idea but nothing has changed. We're still talking push rod ancient technology as far as the engine is concerned. The difference is, when the car is in high gear at freeway speeds, it's running 4 cylinders instead of 8. Our cars on the other hand retain instant on power at all speeds while maintaining high fuel economy. Have a cookie, you'll feel better by the time you're done eating it.
Last edited by hfm; May 13, 2005 at 11:49 PM.
Originally Posted by MulhollandDrive
But it is not the displacement that we should be comparing. We should be comparing the size and weight of the engine and ease of maintenance. Pushrods tend to be smaller and lighter for a given displacement and easier to maintain. So if we were to create a OHC motor and a pushrod motor of equal size and weight the pushrod motor would have a greater displacement...
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Originally Posted by hfm
Mc350z splained it. When the Vette is running freeway speeds, it uses displacement on demand. It is essentially a 4 cylinder car in this mode.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...dcore/0405phr_
gmdod/
It's actually a technologically smart idea but nothing has changed. We're still talking push rod ancient technology as far as the engine is concerned. The difference is, when the car is in high gear at freeway speeds, it's running 4 cylinders instead of 8. Our cars on the other hand retain instant on power at all speeds while maintaining high fuel economy. Have a cookie, you'll feel better by the time you're done eating it.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...dcore/0405phr_
gmdod/
It's actually a technologically smart idea but nothing has changed. We're still talking push rod ancient technology as far as the engine is concerned. The difference is, when the car is in high gear at freeway speeds, it's running 4 cylinders instead of 8. Our cars on the other hand retain instant on power at all speeds while maintaining high fuel economy. Have a cookie, you'll feel better by the time you're done eating it.
The Vette is a great car, no matter what anyone says.
it's all about gearing. i can get better highway MPG if i stay in 6th and do 35mph. i'd be around 900-1000 rpms.
and why do people really care that much about gas prices? i mean if you cannot afford the extra dollar or two at the pump...maybe you need to stop buying Little Debbie Frosted Fatty Cakes every week and voila, there's your gas money. and you'll be healthier
Harv
and why do people really care that much about gas prices? i mean if you cannot afford the extra dollar or two at the pump...maybe you need to stop buying Little Debbie Frosted Fatty Cakes every week and voila, there's your gas money. and you'll be healthier
Harv
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Originally Posted by Amnbex
Nah. The second you hit the gas the other 4 cylinders on the Vette will open up. The Disp. on Demand technology works very well and very seamlessly.
The Vette is a great car, no matter what anyone says.
The Vette is a great car, no matter what anyone says.
yeah it is seemless. unless you were told it did this you wouldnt Know. because i can be running 70 on the interstate and kick it, and it will instantly jump and give me 100% power
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At idling, the Z will save more gas. Porsche 911 GT-3, highway MPG is 23, our Zs are 26, the '03 Vette has 28..... sports cars less drag at highway miles. Two totally different cars, you wouldn't want to drive the C6 everyday to work. The Z is much more practical than the Vettes, no comparison. You'll be surprise that the Z gets as much as attention as the Vette. If you are buying a Vette, go for 2003 and above. Vettes under those years have electrical problems. Like your Z, don't hate it!!!
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Originally Posted by zownz
I dont know if this has to do anything with this topic, but look at the 400hp 6.7L motor and the 3.5 300 hp from nissan. Hmm almost twice the engine size and only 100hp more. Its the hp per square inch that tells you about the car technology and get 21mpg with my Z easy..and 19.5 when im at WOT half of the day..what did GM do for 450hp..they went to a 7.0 motor...yeah you fuss about the mpg...go ahead and throw another 30k for a plastic cheap interior and a piece of crap technology..whats next a 600hp 10.0L...i owned a 97 vette and a Camaro...NEVER AGAIN!!!
Dispite being almost completely wrong with your numbers, you make a good point...
Correction, the vette has 400hp with a 6.0L motor. 2nd correction, 500hp for the 7.0L.
And by the way, I've seen a guy with a 1100 HP Corvette (although, it was an older C5 corvette ... 5.7L V8) STREET LEGAL and DAILY DRIVER. I think the daily driver level for a 350z is around half that at 600HP... not much more though.
Even though it has "double" the displacement, but not much more horsepower stock, it has the same gas mileage with more horsepower, plus a massive amount more potential.
That said, the 350z is far more of a bargain though. I'd rather a 350z than a Corvette just because the 350z is more affordable. 25k vs 50k, obviously thats where the 350z completely obliterates the Corvette.
Comparing the Z to a Vette is like comparing a BMW to a Bentley. They are in such different classes. The Z is the type of car most people own as a daily driver. The Vette is a Sunday morning cruise car. Young people and long time enthusiasts buy Z's. Vettes are mainly owned by the older crowd that grew up with the Vette. It doesn't have as much appeal to the younger crowd. The Vette is almost twice the price...they just don't compare at all...
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Originally Posted by Santacruzslick
Comparing the Z to a Vette is like comparing a BMW to a Bentley. They are in such different classes. The Z is the type of car most people own as a daily driver. The Vette is a Sunday morning cruise car. Young people and long time enthusiasts buy Z's. Vettes are mainly owned by the older crowd that grew up with the Vette. It doesn't have as much appeal to the younger crowd. The Vette is almost twice the price...they just don't compare at all...
Maybe its a little cheap on the inside, whatever! We'll see if the guy in the 911 is still laughing when the Vette brakes later and accelerates out of the corners faster.
