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Old 06-28-2005, 04:41 PM
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no, not that kinda gas

How many of you slightly press the pedal when shifting gears to get smoother shifts?

With my previous car (a '97 Honda Prelude) it was almost a MUST do.

When I test drive an 04' Z it seemed like it wasnt needed as much.

So, who does/doesnt do it?
Old 06-28-2005, 04:44 PM
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I do it...For the people that don't, do you mean you take your foot off gas » press clutch/change gears » then just pop the clutch?
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yah pretty much... for those that dont do it... its along the lines of clutch in... change gear... release clutch (with control ofcourse)
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I'm not sure I get that.

I get my foot fully OFF the gaz whenever I upshift and blip on down shifts...
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what I mean is this... with my prelude it would be:

1st gear...
- clutch in
- place into second
- tiny bit of gas while clutch is raising
- clutch completely out

ofcourse, all happens within half a second
Old 06-28-2005, 06:27 PM
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Ok, understand.

Nope, should not be necessary !
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You can definitely shift just as smooth without having to do this, just take the clutch out slower...

or you can simply powershift and say screw smooth shifting.
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shouldnt be necessary... but does it cause any damage considering youre pressing the gas while the clutch still hasnt raised 100% (you press it more at like 85%) ?
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Worst case scenario, you'll wear the clutch faster.

Just make sure the gear is fully engaged. That's the important part
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i dont really give it gas till the clutch is like 95% engaged.
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I thought you're not suppose to gas until it's nearly fully engaged.
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You can do it without the gas between shifts with some practice. Try waiting 1-2 sec's after letting off the gas, then proceed to change gears. I find that this works best for me.
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Originally Posted by Hyru
So, who does/doesnt do it?
Yup, unless I am in absolute lazy mode I always give it a little gas as I let the clutch out.
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Yeah, i usually give it a lil to get the rpms up a tad so it goes into gear without a hitch.
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Originally Posted by Hyru
what I mean is this... with my prelude it would be:

1st gear...
- clutch in
- place into second
- tiny bit of gas while clutch is raising
- clutch completely out

ofcourse, all happens within half a second
I'm actually a n00b when it comes to driving stick (I've had my Z for about 3 months and this is my first stick) so I wanted to fully understand this so I can hopefully get some pointers:

By the alternative, do you mean in 1st gear:
- Press the clutch in completely
- Place it into second
- Let the clutch out completely
- Then start accelerating like normal?

When my friend was teaching me how to drive stick, he told me that you have to press the gas slightly while depressing the clutch otherwise it switches gears rough and wears down your gears. Is that not true?
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so you're asking how many of us rev match? i find that the revs on the Z drop pretty slowly so there's no need to really pay too much attnetion to that ... i guess it really depends on how quickly you're going from one gear to the next --- i resume to "Gasing" when the clutch is about 90% in
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interested as i need to learn how to drive stick.
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when up shifting I dont give any gas, I shift quick enough that the RPMS fall into a close enough range that i dont need to blip it unless I coast in neutral or something.

when downshfting while braking heel toe method.
when downshifting w/o braking I give it gas while in process of pressing the clutch,
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sounds like driving lesson
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Originally Posted by pengox
I'm actually a n00b when it comes to driving stick (I've had my Z for about 3 months and this is my first stick) so I wanted to fully understand this so I can hopefully get some pointers:

By the alternative, do you mean in 1st gear:
- Press the clutch in completely
- Place it into second
- Let the clutch out completely
- Then start accelerating like normal?

When my friend was teaching me how to drive stick, he told me that you have to press the gas slightly while depressing the clutch otherwise it switches gears rough and wears down your gears. Is that not true?
As long has the clutch is fully in when you move the stick, there will be no load on the gears and thus, no wear.

I reallised this morning that when I'm driving slowly and shifting at 4000 rpm, I do get back on the gaz when the clutch is almost fully out (90% like others here).

When driving harder and shifting at 7000 rpm it is not necessary. The engine drops to the correct rpm.

It's funny because Nissan advertise tha fast gear changing on the manual (says so in the vendor manual) but I find it pretty slow. Compared to my Subaru, the Nissan takes for ever to engage a new gar !
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