why is the track model so heavy?
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why is the track model so heavy?
I don't get it
the performance model which has like 30 more lbs of wheel weight weighs 8 lbs less
both have VDC
sure the track model has the aero package, but that can only be like 4 lbs at most
The brembos were weighed and are only like a few lbs more than the standard brakes
So what's the deal with the track model? what does it have on it the performance model doesn't? Why does it weigh more, when the lighter wheels you'd think would make the car weigh less
I don't get it
the performance model which has like 30 more lbs of wheel weight weighs 8 lbs less
both have VDC
sure the track model has the aero package, but that can only be like 4 lbs at most
The brembos were weighed and are only like a few lbs more than the standard brakes
So what's the deal with the track model? what does it have on it the performance model doesn't? Why does it weigh more, when the lighter wheels you'd think would make the car weigh less
Last edited by sentry65; Aug 9, 2005 at 08:10 PM.
its funny to me that the base weighs about 200lbs less than the other trim models. Shouldnt the track weigh less since weight loss on a track is where its at imo. HP is fine but id rather lose weight with the same power then gain power and keep the weight.
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well the track model is 3225 lbs
the base is 3187 lbs, but the thing is the base model has the cast aluminum wheels. By going to forged wheels you'd lose 30-40 lbs
The base doesn't have an LSD, VDC, or xenon headlights so that helps it weigh less. Probably has less sound absorbing material/tar too
the base is 3187 lbs, but the thing is the base model has the cast aluminum wheels. By going to forged wheels you'd lose 30-40 lbs
The base doesn't have an LSD, VDC, or xenon headlights so that helps it weigh less. Probably has less sound absorbing material/tar too
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Majority of the wieght loss in the Base trim is the LSD and 17' wheels. And if the Base is 3187 and Track is 3225 that's only a difference of 38lbs...that doesn't sound right. I know LSD wieghs alot more than that. Wierd...
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LSD I'd say weighs around 10-15 lbs
the 17inch wheels weigh about 6-7 lbs each more than the track rays
where is the weight added? Electronic stuff?
extra insulation?
Do the xenons weigh more than the base lights?
the 17inch wheels weigh about 6-7 lbs each more than the track rays
where is the weight added? Electronic stuff?
extra insulation?
Do the xenons weigh more than the base lights?
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Do the xenons weigh more than the base lights?
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ok so the xenons weigh more
the LSD weighs a little more
the brembos weigh a little more
VDC and other electronics weighs slightly more
However, the performance model has all of those things except the brembos, has heavier wheels, yet still weighs 8 lbs less
Why? What did they stick in the track model that we're not thinking of?
the LSD weighs a little more
the brembos weigh a little more
VDC and other electronics weighs slightly more
However, the performance model has all of those things except the brembos, has heavier wheels, yet still weighs 8 lbs less
Why? What did they stick in the track model that we're not thinking of?
I dont think performance model has the underbody diffusers and front and rear spoilers. This might be adding to the extra Track weight. Also the 300HP engine, is that a little heavier than 287HP one?
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I don't think the new engine weighs much more, but the track model has always been around 3225 lbs regardless of engine.
I'm sure the aero kit adds about 5 lbs - can't be much more than that
Ok so in comparison to the performance model, the track model has:
aero kit +5 lbs?
brembos +6-7 lbs
rays wheels -25-26 lbs
= the track model should theoretically weigh about 14 lbs less than the performance model, or 22 lbs less than what the track model weighs
so somewhere there's around 22ish lbs of extra something that the track model has that the performance model doesn't. What would it be?
I'm sure the aero kit adds about 5 lbs - can't be much more than that
Ok so in comparison to the performance model, the track model has:
aero kit +5 lbs?
brembos +6-7 lbs
rays wheels -25-26 lbs
= the track model should theoretically weigh about 14 lbs less than the performance model, or 22 lbs less than what the track model weighs
so somewhere there's around 22ish lbs of extra something that the track model has that the performance model doesn't. What would it be?
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I do, do you have anything useful to add or just complain?
I want to know what nissan did to make it different
maybe it's something I can remove or some extra body stiffener I didn't know about
I want to know what nissan did to make it different
maybe it's something I can remove or some extra body stiffener I didn't know about
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hmm well according to speedracer fromt this thread
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/132292-lightest-brakes.html
stock base front caliper: 12.5lbs stoptech front caliper: 11.5lbs
stock base rear caliper: 6.5lbs stoptech rear caliper: 6.5lbs
stock base front rotor: 16lbs stoptech front rotor: 17.5lbs
stock base rear rotor: 12lbs stoptech rear rotor: 15lbs
total weight of stock base brake system: 94lbs
total weight of brembo brake system:107lbs
total weight of Stoptech brake system:101lbs
ok so
aero kit +5 lbs?
brembos +13 lbs
rays wheels -25-26 lbs
there's still 15 lbs unaccounted for that the track model has over the performance model
ok well the mystery is becoming less, but there's still 15 lbs or so of something added to the track model
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/132292-lightest-brakes.html
stock base front caliper: 12.5lbs stoptech front caliper: 11.5lbs
stock base rear caliper: 6.5lbs stoptech rear caliper: 6.5lbs
stock base front rotor: 16lbs stoptech front rotor: 17.5lbs
stock base rear rotor: 12lbs stoptech rear rotor: 15lbs
total weight of stock base brake system: 94lbs
total weight of brembo brake system:107lbs
total weight of Stoptech brake system:101lbs
ok so
aero kit +5 lbs?
brembos +13 lbs
rays wheels -25-26 lbs
there's still 15 lbs unaccounted for that the track model has over the performance model
ok well the mystery is becoming less, but there's still 15 lbs or so of something added to the track model




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