"Its a poor men's porsche" says 06' owner
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The Z DOES look like a Porsche. Maybe not exactly, but one can say that they are similar. Stylistically, the cues are very close.
If someone said that my wife looked like "a common man's Victoria's Secret model", I'd take that as a compliment.
Don't get me wrong, though. I still think the Z looks BETTER than the Porsche, no matter how similar.
If someone said that my wife looked like "a common man's Victoria's Secret model", I'd take that as a compliment.
Don't get me wrong, though. I still think the Z looks BETTER than the Porsche, no matter how similar.
Last edited by zpak; Oct 12, 2005 at 11:49 PM.
Originally Posted by zpak
The Z DOES look like a Porsche. Maybe not exactly, but one can say that they are similar. Stylistically, the cues are very close.
If someone said that my wife looked like "a common man's Victoria's Secret model", I'd take that as a compliment.
Don't get me wrong, though. I still think the Z looks BETTER than the Porsche, no matter how similar.
If someone said that my wife looked like "a common man's Victoria's Secret model", I'd take that as a compliment.
Don't get me wrong, though. I still think the Z looks BETTER than the Porsche, no matter how similar.
I mean look at this thing:
It's a modern thing of beauty!
Last edited by Z_Driver; Oct 13, 2005 at 12:09 AM.
Originally Posted by zpak
The Z DOES look like a Porsche. Maybe not exactly, but one can say that they are similar. Stylistically, the cues are very close.
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Originally Posted by zpak
If someone said that my wife looked like "a common man's Victoria's Secret model", I'd take that as a compliment.
People just buy into all that marketing crap. Look what the DeBeers did to diamonds.
Most of the European marques are really good at marketing, creating that aura of superiority. And people buy into it. A Porsche is no better looking than a Z, but people think so just because it costs more. I just want to tell the masses to wake up. Just because something costs more doesn't necessarily make it better.
ps: do I need a flame suit for this?
I totally agree with you. And very nice explanation on the victoria secret. His wife could be as beautiful or even more beautiful. But since her name is "Jane Doe, house wife" instead of "Jane Doe, Victoria Secret model". For some reason people think she is not as attractive or even more attractive then the victoria secret model.
Originally Posted by Zakira
The thing is, it's all in the packaging and marketing. Your wife very well may be as good looking or even better looking than a Victoria's Secrets model. But by the way a Victoria's Secret model is made up, dressed down and plastered all over glamorously, people just buy into it and would just drool all over her, and think that she is better than say, a girl you see anywhere, when in fact if you take all those layers of superficialness away, that regular girl may actually be hotter than the model (sorry for the run-on).
People just buy into all that marketing crap. Look what the DeBeers did to diamonds.
Most of the European marques are really good at marketing, creating that aura of superiority. And people buy into it. A Porsche is no better looking than a Z, but people think so just because it costs more. I just want to tell the masses to wake up. Just because something costs more doesn't necessarily make it better.
ps: do I need a flame suit for this?
People just buy into all that marketing crap. Look what the DeBeers did to diamonds.
Most of the European marques are really good at marketing, creating that aura of superiority. And people buy into it. A Porsche is no better looking than a Z, but people think so just because it costs more. I just want to tell the masses to wake up. Just because something costs more doesn't necessarily make it better.
ps: do I need a flame suit for this?
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z vs porsche
Originally Posted by 350ZYALATA
Yea but delivers almost as much performance and is mid 30g's so think what you want it's been around for a while and when the fairlady first came over to the us it actually beat the 911 at the time but alright whatever ya say it's a damn good bargain if it is because a Z will hold it's own against a 911 Carrera so 
It was great fun!! ( on the streets of Scottsdale - I was going 85 through the south business district from the river bottom - on the one occasion.
I find the 350Z have similiar lines as the 300ZX. I don't think they tried to make it look llike the porsche or the audi tt.
The biggest difference theat they change from the 300ZX to the 350Z is the nose, the nose is much more stubby (which I like). I think it was a good idea to go with a stubbier nose.
The biggest difference theat they change from the 300ZX to the 350Z is the nose, the nose is much more stubby (which I like). I think it was a good idea to go with a stubbier nose.
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Originally Posted by ZlleH
I find the 350Z have similiar lines as the 300ZX. I don't think they tried to make it look llike the porsche or the audi tt.
The biggest difference theat they change from the 300ZX to the 350Z is the nose, the nose is much more stubby (which I like). I think it was a good idea to go with a stubbier nose.
The biggest difference theat they change from the 300ZX to the 350Z is the nose, the nose is much more stubby (which I like). I think it was a good idea to go with a stubbier nose.
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Silverstone looks so good clean and dirty...thats why I bought it. Mines dirty right now. 
My last 4 new cars have been black..best color CLEAN but keeping that way sucks.
I love the way both look...hell if I could afford a GT2 or GT3 I would be all over them...
My last 4 new cars have been black..best color CLEAN but keeping that way sucks.
I love the way both look...hell if I could afford a GT2 or GT3 I would be all over them...
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From: Georgia
Originally Posted by imtiaz
well the designers of the Z had one objective in mind ... a car built to compete and some may even say, be better than a porsche
it is better than a porsche. it's better than the boxster and boxster S at least. I am personally insulted when people always compare the Z to a Boxster. Boxsters have nothing on the Z when it comes to straightline performance
Originally Posted by mecinoid
Yeah, the Z is a lot fresher design with modern concepts. The Porsche is still modifying it's original design from over 30 years ago. They tried with the 928 and 944 and failed. We'll have to see how well the Z does. I think Nissan got the right idea this time keeping it looking good and at a price a lot of us can/want to pay for a car.
I mean look at this thing:
It's a modern thing of beauty!
I mean look at this thing:
It's a modern thing of beauty!
Is that a carbon fiber hood and a carbon fiber wing?
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by Ztalker
hehe 
don't i loved this thread....i think i finally stepped on somebody's tail.....your absolutely right, a goddamn Mercedes is an expensive Chrysler product (i own a sh!tty a$$ M320 Benz/built here in the USA when Benz took over Chrysler), just take one good look at the brand new Benz R class..they are built on the same platform as a Chrysler Pacifica, the only difference is the engine placement between the two cars.....ok, the benz is more on the plush side.
i don't know anything about the Lambo, but a freaking Ferrarri is a freaking overpriced damned FIAT, Fiat owns Ferrarri or is it the other way around.They break down all the time. Will someone correct me if i was WRONG.
i just had a conversation with my German Mechanic (from Germany)who works on my m320...he says VW owns Porsche and Audi and they are more or less similar cars.
I do like the 911 RUF edition which tops out at 212mph on the autobahn....
"in a 'mad' world...only the 'mad' will be sane.
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don't i loved this thread....i think i finally stepped on somebody's tail.....your absolutely right, a goddamn Mercedes is an expensive Chrysler product (i own a sh!tty a$$ M320 Benz/built here in the USA when Benz took over Chrysler), just take one good look at the brand new Benz R class..they are built on the same platform as a Chrysler Pacifica, the only difference is the engine placement between the two cars.....ok, the benz is more on the plush side.i don't know anything about the Lambo, but a freaking Ferrarri is a freaking overpriced damned FIAT, Fiat owns Ferrarri or is it the other way around.They break down all the time. Will someone correct me if i was WRONG.
i just had a conversation with my German Mechanic (from Germany)who works on my m320...he says VW owns Porsche and Audi and they are more or less similar cars.
I do like the 911 RUF edition which tops out at 212mph on the autobahn....
"in a 'mad' world...only the 'mad' will be sane.
Akira Kurosawa
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by AZZGUY
Yes, I whopped 2 different 911's with my 1990 350ZX (hands down!)
It was great fun!! ( on the streets of Scottsdale - I was going 85 through the south business district from the river bottom - on the one occasion.
It was great fun!! ( on the streets of Scottsdale - I was going 85 through the south business district from the river bottom - on the one occasion.
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Renault
Originally Posted by zedated
Be careful when making these comparisons, I think Renault owns/controls Nissan nowadays!
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Originally Posted by zedated
Be careful when making these comparisons, I think Renault owns/controls Nissan nowadays!
"In a 'mad' world ...only the 'mad' will be sane"
Akira Kurosawa
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Originally Posted by ZlleH
I totally agree with you. And very nice explanation on the victoria secret. His wife could be as beautiful or even more beautiful. But since her name is "Jane Doe, house wife" instead of "Jane Doe, Victoria Secret model". For some reason people think she is not as attractive or even more attractive then the victoria secret model.
Likewise, I would prefer a Z to a Porsche anytime because of what I know of these cars' respective characters/personalities.
Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar, and a buncha other "elite" car companies all make cars that are severely sub-par to the Z, no matter what kind of fancy packaging goes into them.