Brand New Turn key Turbocharged 350Z
Would there be a market segment interested in purchasing a NEW Z already outfitted with a complete performance package already installed? The car would include Turbo induction 450HP 380ft-lbs motor, 19" wheels/tires, BBK, coilover suspension, sway bars, performance clutch and ECU tunning. for about $50,000 dollars.
Remainder of Warranty would be through Nissan for parts the modifications do not void.
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
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JET
Remainder of Warranty would be through Nissan for parts the modifications do not void.
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
Respect
JET
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
........Remainder of Warranty would be through Nissan for parts the modifications do not void.
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
Respect
JET
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
Respect
JET
No chance thats gonna happend. Any performance part you do will void that specific warranty. Turbo will void the whole engine warranty. The only way you can find a car like that is if Nissan North America decided to sell the full Nismo packaged 350Z. It would be NA and making 350-375BHP and 300ft-lbs. and it would cost 50K. Not gonna happen unless you have the $ to make your own Nismo Z.
Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
No chance thats gonna happend. Any performance part you do will void that specific warranty. Turbo will void the whole engine warranty. The only way you can find a car like that is if Nissan North America decided to sell the full Nismo packaged 350Z. It would be NA and making 350-375BHP and 300ft-lbs. and it would cost 50K. Not gonna happen unless you have the $ to make your own Nismo Z.
I am not saying that 50K is the right price point, but if you could build your own Z to include a F/I solution that was tested and warrantied, I bet there would be a market for it......
The final warantied product probably would not be at the 500+HP/Torque that we are starting to see with regularity.....but I bet NNA could test and warranty 390-400 hp/torque.....
Originally Posted by JoneZZZ
If NNA engineering put their heads together to select either one or a group of F/I solutions that they would be willing to integrate, and warranty, I think it would be a good idea......I mean have you see the list of F/I owners?
I am not saying that 50K is the right price point, but if you could build your own Z to include a F/I solution that was tested and warrantied, I bet there would be a market for it......
The final warantied product probably would not be at the 500+HP/Torque that we are starting to see with regularity.....but I bet NNA could test and warranty 390-400 hp/torque.....
I am not saying that 50K is the right price point, but if you could build your own Z to include a F/I solution that was tested and warrantied, I bet there would be a market for it......
The final warantied product probably would not be at the 500+HP/Torque that we are starting to see with regularity.....but I bet NNA could test and warranty 390-400 hp/torque.....
Yeah I know there would be a market for a FI 400HP Z that was tested and warrantied.. Alot of people do FI their car but they all void there warranty like that. I for sure would love to see a TT Z avaiable at the lot as much as the next guy but I don't think the market will be as strong as it is now. I mean you guys remember the 300ZX was around 40-45K but Nissan was recording very low sales because of SUV's
Last edited by Nismo 350z; Dec 2, 2005 at 07:38 PM.
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Apparently not because NISMO is not a business which modifies the 350Z, then provides them for sale by the dealer.
Both BMW and Mercedes have “tuners” but the 350Z does not:
1. The 350Z has only been in production for 3 years. Not long enough to establish a dedicated following of repeat buyers.
2. Budget buyer: Someone paying $70,000 for a Mercedes is apt to drop another $10,000 for the “tuner” version. On the other hand, the additional cost pushes the 350Z from $35,000 to $45,000.
3. Economy of scale: Demand for modified Mustangs is 1 percent of total annual sales or 1,900. A company can profit modifying 1,900 cars/year. Using the same percentage would mean only 30 350Zs.
Both BMW and Mercedes have “tuners” but the 350Z does not:
1. The 350Z has only been in production for 3 years. Not long enough to establish a dedicated following of repeat buyers.
2. Budget buyer: Someone paying $70,000 for a Mercedes is apt to drop another $10,000 for the “tuner” version. On the other hand, the additional cost pushes the 350Z from $35,000 to $45,000.
3. Economy of scale: Demand for modified Mustangs is 1 percent of total annual sales or 1,900. A company can profit modifying 1,900 cars/year. Using the same percentage would mean only 30 350Zs.
Last edited by davidv; Dec 2, 2005 at 07:49 PM.
Originally Posted by Daytona350Texas
Stillen stage 1 SC doesnt void warranty...
Uh yeah it does. People think they don't because Stillen offers a 3 year warranty on them and its CARB legal. But if something happens to your stock heads with the kit on.. I doubt the delearship will fix it for you. Besides the stage 1 offers the same performance/HP of bolt on NA Z.. intake ,full exhaust, plenum, pulley, cams, ECU.
Originally Posted by davidv
Apparently not because NISMO is not a business which modifies the 350Z, then provides them for sale by the dealer.
Both BMW and Mercedes have “tuners” but the 350Z does not:
1. The 350Z has only been in production for 3 years. Not long enough to establish a dedicated following of repeat buyers.
2. Budget buyer: Someone paying $70,000 for a Mercedes is apt to drop another $10,000 for the “tuner” version. On the other hand, the additional cost pushes the 350Z from $35,000 to $45,000.
3. Economy of scale: Demand for modified Mustangs is 1 percent of total annual sales or 1,900. A company can profit modifying 1,900 cars/year. Using the same percentage would mean only 30 350Zs.
Both BMW and Mercedes have “tuners” but the 350Z does not:
1. The 350Z has only been in production for 3 years. Not long enough to establish a dedicated following of repeat buyers.
2. Budget buyer: Someone paying $70,000 for a Mercedes is apt to drop another $10,000 for the “tuner” version. On the other hand, the additional cost pushes the 350Z from $35,000 to $45,000.
3. Economy of scale: Demand for modified Mustangs is 1 percent of total annual sales or 1,900. A company can profit modifying 1,900 cars/year. Using the same percentage would mean only 30 350Zs.
Then why does Nismo sell full packaged Z's in Japan at the Nissan dealerships and people pay 60K+ for them. They have the S-tune, R-tune and the Z-tune<--- don't know what that one has but it makes 380BHP.
Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
Then why does Nismo sell full packaged Z's in Japan at the Nissan dealerships and people pay 60K+ for them. They have the S-tune, R-tune and the Z-tune<--- don't know what that one has but it makes 380BHP. 
Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
Uh yeah it does. People think they don't because Stillen offers a 3 year warranty on them and its CARB legal. But if something happens to your stock heads with the kit on.. I doubt the delearship will fix it for you. Besides the stage 1 offers the same performance/HP of bolt on NA Z.. intake ,full exhaust, plenum, pulley, cams, ECU.
Now it would be nice to see NISMO put together a high-end complete package with the same performance impact of say an AMG/MB(Jonezzz has a flashback to the pricepoint as he says this).........I think it would do a lot for the brand....not sure how it would impact sales once NNA put a price tag on it.
Originally Posted by davidv
3. Economy of scale: Demand for modified Mustangs is 1 percent of total annual sales or 1,900. A company can profit modifying 1,900 cars/year. Using the same percentage would mean only 30 350Zs.
Originally Posted by davidv
After giving it a second thought, my rational is flawed. NISMO could tune ALL Nissan vehicles, not just the 350Z. That would give NISMO the numbers to make the business profitable.
Originally Posted by JoneZZZ
If they did this I would like NISMO to set a high performance standard.....I mean REALLY push the engineering envelope and make a performance statement with a NISMO badge......
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Would there be a market segment interested in purchasing a NEW Z already outfitted with a complete performance package already installed? The car would include Turbo induction 450HP 380ft-lbs motor, 19" wheels/tires, BBK, coilover suspension, sway bars, performance clutch and ECU tunning. for about $50,000 dollars.
Remainder of Warranty would be through Nissan for parts the modifications do not void.
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
Respect
JET
Remainder of Warranty would be through Nissan for parts the modifications do not void.
Just lik what Saleen does for Mustangs. Any thoughts?
Respect
JET
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Originally Posted by davidv
After giving it a second thought, my rational is flawed. NISMO could tune ALL Nissan vehicles, not just the 350Z. That would give NISMO the numbers to make the business profitable.
nismo does tune almost every nissan vehicle in japan
nismo has what is called car factory where you can buy a limited # of nismo tuned cars as a package. they also have partnership tuner shops where they install the parts after you buy the car
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