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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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this is for all the manual transmission people... when you are on a steep incline and there is a car behind you, how do you accelerate the car quickly enough so that you dont roll back too far and hit the guy behind you? i was on a super steep incline today and a car was behind me and it rolled back pretty fast, i revved the car to 4000rpm and i dumped the clutch and my tires spun badly and i think i may have burned the clutch a little. tell me what your techniques are guys so that you dont hit the person behind you
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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A lot of people will sing the virtues of the handbrake technique. Can't say that I've embraced it myself. I typically raise the RPMs to about 1500 and feather the clutch until moving forwards. Using this technique I have never rolled backwards more than a quarter inch or so.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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Handbrake works pretty sweet. You just hold the handbrake up with the button pushed in with your right hand. Then you ease out the clutch. When you feel the clutch to start to grab let the hand brake down and apply a little gas to get you going. Try it on level ground at first.

Note: The 350Z emergency brake is generally adjusted pretty weak so you'll have to yank up on the handle a little harder than you would in other cars. You can adjust this with an adjustment bolt/nut inside the car however. It works pretty good as is. However, I plan on readjusting mine for a little better bite when I remember. Maybe tomorrow. It will take like three minutes.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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The hand brake works well. Give the car some gas, let out the clutch and release the hand brake at the same time. The technique takes a bit of practice.

There are times that I’ve got out of the car, went to the driver behind me and said “Hey buddy, give me a little damn room here will ya!”
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 03:45 AM
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I hold the brake down with the ball of my right foot while giving the car some gas with my right heel. After that, I slowly feather the clutch until i get moving and release the brake. It just takes practice. If all else fails, just handbrake it...better safe than sorry.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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I rev to 5500rpm and side-step the clutch, leaving the suv that pulled too close to me in a cloud of smoke.





nah, not really: handbrake.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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i usuaully over rev the engine a bit to get the car moving and i quickly engage the clutch so i dont wear out the clutch. works fine as long as you are quick
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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depends, usually ill use the hand brake


my last car, i didnt like the clutch, so i reved and let go of the clutch just the right amount so i wouldnt roll backwards
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Comes pretty natural
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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I live in SF, which has to have the most number of steep hills in the country, I really don't find it a problem at all. There is so much HP, you really shouldn't need to over-rev or use the E brake. You just have to get the feet moving quicker, it just takes experience. Now my daily driver, 4cyl. truck, requires over-revving the engine and feathering the clutch in order not to kill someone behind me. So far, no fatalities.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by zzz350
I live in SF, which has to have the most number of steep hills in the country, I really don't find it a problem at all. There is so much HP, you really shouldn't need to over-rev or use the E brake. You just have to get the feet moving quicker, it just takes experience. Now my daily driver, 4cyl. truck, requires over-revving the engine and feathering the clutch in order not to kill someone behind me. So far, no fatalities.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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I practice throttle control. I'll go on to a steep incline and try to keep the car still adjusting throttle and clutch pedal. For me its fun and it's a good skill to have.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Handbrake? Come on, people, learn how to use a MT.

Its a matter of practice. If in doubt, I'll rev the engine a hair & slip the clutch. But a driver should be able to let out the clutch & apply gas w/o stalling.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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i have done both, but usually just hammer the throttle, let the clutch out really quick then back off the clutch again till i find the sweet spot and go for it.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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have you ever tried to use a clutch brake procedure? this procedure is done by giong halfway engaging your clutch and increasing your rpm to prevent a roll back or forward motion in an inclined surface. If you have practiced this procedure a lot, you may even not use your hand brake on a steep grade. A good MT driver never rolls back. Practice a lot..... c",)
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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feather the clutch a little... I'm still weird about how ...soft the Z hand brake is... I should prolly get around to adjusting it. but what the hoot.. It's all about clutch control..
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Real men don't use the handbrake!
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Prolonged uphill stop (like at a light): full brake in neutral. When light is green, clutch, put her in gear, heel the accelerator, release brake/clutch accordingly.

Short uphill stop: modulate the clutch and the accelerator right at the friction point so that you're not moving forward/backward (but if you released the clutch and gunned the accel, you would). This wears on the clutch, so would recommend for short stops only.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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i used the handbrake when i was still learning to drive. It doesnt matter how steep the incline is, i dont use it anymore. If some a-hole is inches from my bumper on a steep hill i'll get out of my car and tell them to back off.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
Handbrake? Come on, people, learn how to use a MT.

Its a matter of practice. If in doubt, I'll rev the engine a hair & slip the clutch. But a driver should be able to let out the clutch & apply gas w/o stalling.
I understand what you are saying. It can be done no problem. However, you save the clutch and have more control to pull away slowly without burning the clutch if you use the handbrake method. It just saves the clutch a bit.
I can pull away everytime without the handbrake. I just makes it a bit easier when you are on a steep hill. JMHO
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