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Old 01-03-2006, 09:47 AM
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I bought an 03 about three months ago. It had 22,000km on it and now has 29,000. Apparently, the clutch just died and they're gonna want like $1500 for parts and labor. They're saying it's not covered by warranty because it's wear and tear, but another Nissan dealer inspected the car prior to selling it to me and said it was fine. Correct me if i'm wrong, but there is no way that clutch should have gone from "fine" to "dead" in 7,000km! Aren't they responsible for either not spotting that it was already badly worn when i bought the car, or the faulty mechanics that caused it to wear after only 7,000? Dammit, that thing stunk all the time, and for no reason! Even when i drove slowly and carefully, it still stunk. Why should i be paying for this?!
Old 01-03-2006, 09:49 AM
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If there is something defective that caused it to wear like that then they should replace it. Other wise they can say you just don't know how to drive a manual transmission.
Old 01-03-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Z007
If there is something defective that caused it to wear like that then they should replace it. Other wise they can say you just don't know how to drive a manual transmission.
1. If there is a defect that caused abnormal wear, how do i prove that?
2. If there isn't a defect, then shouldn't they have mentioned to me that the clutch was almost gone when i bought the car? Aren't they legally obligated to? They told me the car was perfectly fine. Isn't it true that if the clutch was fine, there is no way i could have worn it in just 7000km, even if i was a really bad driver (which i'm not)?
Old 01-03-2006, 09:53 AM
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Wear and tear my ***! Call Nissan USA if they dont want to repair under warranty. there's no way a clutch would wear out like that, unless the previous owner abuse the car.
Old 01-03-2006, 09:55 AM
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basically they sold you a car with a worn out clutch. they should have detect it the problem before selling the car.
Old 01-03-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by d!abolic
1. If there is a defect that caused abnormal wear, how do i prove that?
2. If there isn't a defect, then shouldn't they have mentioned to me that the clutch was almost gone when i bought the car? Aren't they legally obligated to? They told me the car was perfectly fine. Isn't it true that if the clutch was fine, there is no way i could have worn it in just 7000km, even if i was a really bad driver (which i'm not)?
1. Get them to do further looking into the clutch or take it to another shop you trust. If there is an issue causing the wear. Your just going to burn through another clutch.
2. There is really no way to prove they knew the clutch was worn even if it was when you bought it. To answer your questions, yes they should of told you or replaced it if they knew. There's really nothing you can do if it is just worn and needs replacing. If there is a problem then that's a different story.
Old 01-03-2006, 09:59 AM
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buyer beware on used cars. It was good that you got the car checked out before you bought it, but never have it done by another dealer, get someone else. I bet the clutch was shot when you bought it, the dealer that sold it didn't care and the one the checked it out didn't care, hell they prolly thought you would get it fixed with them when it finally went. I would just ***** alot, talk to the GM of the dealership, call NNA and if none of that works get it fixed somewhere other than a dealership and go back and slash some tires at night, Good luck!
Old 01-03-2006, 09:59 AM
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sounds fine to me. clutches dont last that long. just diy if u have the tools. the disc wont cost more than a few 100 bucks, pressure plate should be fine. u bought a used car.

and yes a clutch can go from fine to dead in a matter of a few hundred miles, let alone 7k km.
Old 01-03-2006, 10:09 AM
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I if you cant get them to fix it throw in a JWT combo
Old 01-03-2006, 10:21 AM
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A clutch might last 1,000 or 100,000 miles. Unless there is a defect in material or workmanship, then the clutch is just worn. After the new clutch is installed, ask for the OEM clutch. Have the clutch inspected by a mechanic who you trust.
Old 01-03-2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
A clutch might last 1,000 or 100,000 miles. Unless there is a defect in material or workmanship, then the clutch is just worn. After the new clutch is installed, ask for the OEM clutch. Have the clutch inspected by a mechanic who you trust.
It SHOULD last 100,000km! They're claiming it was "like new" 7,000km ago and is now gone because i don't know how to drive! BULL****!! I'm a damn good driver and even if i wasn't, how could i have killed it in 7,000km?!
Old 01-03-2006, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by enrique350Z
basically they sold you a car with a worn out clutch. they should have detect it the problem before selling the car.
The dealer i bought it from said they inspected it and everything was in "excellent, like new" condition! I specifically asked about the tranny, cuz i know that's a major issue with 350's.
Old 01-03-2006, 10:35 AM
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I think they sold you a line of B.S. by telling you the clutch was fine. They probably meant that it shifted in and out of gear. Unless they physically removed the clutch from the transmission, I don't see how they could tell the wear invloved...and if it was a salesman who told you this then it doesn't even need a discussion.
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Sounds like you bought a used car with a clutch that was probably like 85% worn out. Previous owner probably raced it alot or didn't know how to drive a manual... Not much you can do unless they gurentee there inspection with paperwork, even then they can say you abused the clutch...

One reason I won't buy a used sports car with a manual transmission. Most of my friends suck at driving manuals and I think most people in general are not good manual drivers.

As my dad used to tell me "wipe the blood off"
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sorry for duplicate.
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Originally Posted by enrique350Z
basically they sold you a car with a worn out clutch. they should have detect it the problem before selling the car.
The dealer i bought it from said they inspected it and everything was in "excellent, like new" condition! I specifically asked about the tranny, cuz i know that's a major issue with 350's.
Old 01-03-2006, 11:10 AM
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oh btw the clutch i had on my z was bout 80% worn at 20k miles when i replaced it with a new jwt combo. i did drag race it a little and like to do burnouts. unless it was driven by your grandma it wont make it to 100k
Old 01-03-2006, 11:16 AM
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Dealers tell you what you want to hear and not the truth.... But after 29k that clutch should be long gone... go after the dealer where you bought it from.
Old 01-03-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PoWeRtRiP
sounds fine to me. clutches dont last that long. just diy if u have the tools. the disc wont cost more than a few 100 bucks, pressure plate should be fine. u bought a used car.

and yes a clutch can go from fine to dead in a matter of a few hundred miles, let alone 7k km.
I disagree. With this car, you have to replace everything. First of all, you should NEVER replace the disc without replacing the pressure plate. If one is worn out, the other is as well. Not replacing the pressure plate means accelerated wear, chatter/shudder, possible hot spots, and slipping under heavy loads. Second, you should always resurface the flywheel when replacing the disc. The Nissan dealer told me that the stock dual mass flywheel cannot be resurfaced (friction surface is too thin) so you have to buy a new one. Even if you try to resurface it, that is not a DIY job. Not resurfacing/replacing the flywheel also leads to hot spots, chatter/shudder and accelerated wear. For all the labor involved in dropping the tranny, you should do it right while you are in there... It is cheaper in the long run.

Since this needs to be replaced, this would be a good time to move over to a good aftermarket unit. JWT and RPS have very nice and reasonable unit.


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