We were discussing an Acura NSX to a Nissan 350Z lap time. Now you want to compare a Honda NSX-R to a Nissan 350Z lap time? If you want to be fair, then take 400 pounds off the 350Z because that's one of the difference between the Acura NSX and the Honda NSX-R, 400 pounds weight reduction.

 

Is the Honda NSX lighter then the Acura NSX. The Acura weighs 3150 and the Honda NSX-R is 2800. If the Honda NSX is lighter then the Acura, then it will be less then a 400 pound difference.

 

It's the "R" stuff that makes it lighter, not the Acura/Honda label.

The JP NSX-R kicks the US NSX's azz.

 

Any JP car model kicks the US car model!


Some people call it emissions control?

 

Yes I realize this. I was more going for the weight difference. The Acura NSX and the Honda NSX-R have a 350 pound difference. Now if the Honda NSX is lighter then the Acura NSX, the difference would be less.

 

LOL, sorry, it's 350 pounds lighter, not 400 pounds.

 

I was not trying to correct you . I was trying to compare the weight of the Honda NSX and the Honda NSX-R, instead of the Acura NSX and the Honda NSX-R. I just wanted to know if the Honda is lighter then the Acura.

 

pretty damn cool

 

Honda NSX is still a Honda NSX in Japan....no Acura.

As far as the difference between the NSX and NSX-R the weight difference is a BIG part but there are other things that make the R perform alot better.

-bigger tires, brakes
-Final gear ratio is lower
-gas pedal response, torque is more linear for precision control.
-beefier stabilizer bars, struts, springs
-stiffer all around
-And of course, the bucket seats harness the driver's ****.

 

I know that it is only Honda over there. Acura is only present in the USA and Canada. I think the Acura NSX might be a tad bit heavier then the Honda NSX, just due to the more strict safety requirements.

 

I've only driven it in computer sim racing and even there it's frickin hairy. It gets better once you memorize it. I hope one day to get over there and try it for real.

 

Well, if you want to read about someone's experience in a 350Z from Grand Turismo 4 to the real thing, there is a cool article I just found here:

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/ar...?id=10209&vf=1

 

Here's some pictures of me at the ring, btw - appart from the general layout, the game cannot begin to let you experience what is like in terms of gradients, g-force, bumps, traffic (cars, bikes, buses, police), accidents (the people who are over confident) etc.

 

Hurly in an X5 with a V12, that must have been a wild ride.

So I am supposed to believe a stock 350z will beat a GTR around the 'ring? Some of these times are highly questionable.. as in maybe some drivers wern't so great?

In every comparison I've ever seen where they had S2ks go around a road course vs the Z, the S2k had no problem owning it. In fact even against the RX8 in the comparison I remember the road course times were nearly identical.

As a Z owner, these numbers are very surprising. I don't think a Z will outhandle out accelerate out anything against an NSX.

Considering a TYPE R NSX will run high 12s bone stock and has an incredible suspension.. basically the way the car should have been sold here.

Oh well, numbers are numbers.

 

Where do people get off saying this crap?

 

The Nordschleife (north loop) is a great track, much different than GT4, or any game I have played. Here are few pics that my friend and I took from the passenger seat of the rental we thrashed on the track (bmw 528)

 

I have never seen a test where the S2k was faster than a 350Z on track. And from personal experience, actually racing against S2k's in Touring 2, the 350 kills them, they are at least 2 seconds a lap slower if not more (depending upon track)

 

Thats why you stick with a balance setup like the Nismo Kit.... Everything is matched..

 

I know magazines like Road & Track and Car & Driver have shown the S2000 faster at the track then the 350z (track comparisons where they get like 8 cars and run them at the track on the same day)...

Also the 350z thats running this track might be setup with Nismo equipment which might explain why it got the times that it did <shrug>

 

1/4 miles time are worth nothing on a big race track like the NurburgRing. By the time you get to the first curve, your way up in fourth gear. You might get down in third in some curves...

Momentum will get you around fast. We were passing 911s and older Ferraris with a rental BMW 320i. Knowledge of the track does help.

Trainning on a video game is a must for anyone who want's to enjoy his first day at that track (as opposed to be scared all the time).