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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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And here I thought jvanquish was actually going to contribute something to this board!

LMAO!
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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right...
ummm so... to the conclusion... i just unscrew these screws on the bosch thing and it should be ight?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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just press the button that says VDC or TRC
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by YBLegal
just press the button that says VDC or TRC
it doesnt do... cuz VDC OFF still have LSD-braking and annoying ABS kicking in too early...
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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or some say that if you hold on to it for like 10-15 sec it completely shuts the VDC system and when you turn your car back on it come on again
try that
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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lol.. that doesnt work...
its urban myth...
pull the plug or the fuse = best
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
Bone dry down here...
hmm well its rainnnny here. but i will try to speed up the process, i was origionally going to do a few quick ones for some people but i'll just wait. So i think that i will try to speed up the process and get them ready some time at the end of Feb or early march. Im more concentrating on getting my TT setup installed though. (BTW i have the switch on my car if that makes any of you jealous... ) maybe its all in my head but i can EASILY feel better throttle response along wiht better handling!!! i'lll share the wealth soon though. Look for a post later in Feb OR early march
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
lol.. that doesnt work...
its urban myth...
pull the plug or the fuse = best
icic.. i figure that.. well.. good luck with it` i am going to try this too when i get my car back
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Soccerprep205
hmm well its rainnnny here. but i will try to speed up the process, i was origionally going to do a few quick ones for some people but i'll just wait. So i think that i will try to speed up the process and get them ready some time at the end of Feb or early march. Im more concentrating on getting my TT setup installed though. (BTW i have the switch on my car if that makes any of you jealous... ) maybe its all in my head but i can EASILY feel better throttle response along wiht better handling!!! i'lll share the wealth soon though. Look for a post later in Feb OR early march
if u sell it for more than 20 dollars i'll call it an entrepreneuship instead of sharing ur weath...
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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What are the advantages of totally disabling VDC ?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mahont
What are the advantages of totally disabling VDC ?
no more LSD-braking,
no more ABS
no more ****-blocking when you hit the throttle
basically its uber VDC-OFF
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
no more LSD-braking,
no more ABS
no more ****-blocking when you hit the throttle
basically its uber VDC-OFF
you still have abs, and i never noticed a difference in throttle response...
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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ABS is retained. Speed sensitive steering is supposedly also killed, resulting in quicker, more precise steering response.

So what's the big confusion over what you need to do? There are multiple threads and posts that just say to pull the white plug on the Bosch box. Why would you need to unscrew the box from the floor?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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I think some people unscrew the box just to get some more clearance to pull out the plug. It's really crammed in there. I didn't take out the box but I had the cuts to show for it.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
ABS is retained. Speed sensitive steering is supposedly also killed, resulting in quicker, more precise steering response.

So what's the big confusion over what you need to do? There are multiple threads and posts that just say to pull the white plug on the Bosch box. Why would you need to unscrew the box from the floor?
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ok...
i'll try it tomorrow
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i want to find a way that doesnt involve lifting the center console everytime...
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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it'd be cool if you could just wire it to the current VDC switch and light... sooo...you disable the VDC...it shows you the VDC OFF light....BUT (tadaaa) it is all completely disabled! =)))

has anybody done that yet?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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i like the 2 stage idea better
lol spirited driving and drifting is totally different
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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is this the same for the 06 since the center plastic console is different??
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rolling
is this the same for the 06 since the center plastic console is different??
open it up take some pictures and let us see
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Searching for "VDC OFF" on this forum would have led you to this post:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....&highlight=vdc

Read through it's entirety. It describes which wire to intercept to disable vdc and TCS completely (same impact as pulling the fuse) but without losing ABS (which you absolutely need).

Excuse me while I go into lecture mode for a sec... I'll get flamed probably but I'm used to it..

Next time try a couple searches before tearing into your car with a vague notion of your goal. I mean, it's your car...trash it if you want. But the quickest route to a ratty interior is to explore and not know what you're doing. And I apologize if I'm off base and you do know your away around disassembling the interior...but the posts suggested otherwise.

If you don't even really know what VDC is then you shouldn't be mucking around with your electronics. These are not Chevy Novas or Ford Mustangs from the 60s. The electrics are spidered throughout these cars in ways you haven't begun to imagine... until you do your homework. Then it isn't so bad... But hell don't go cutting wires and pulling modules out if you don't know what they do. It isn't always as simple as "take it out and it's gone". Research is required!

To everyone else: It's good that there are enough folks who respond to these posts with cautions and warnings and stories of why you should not disable these features. For the most part it is true that a majority (large majority) of drivers need these safety devices enabled.

But it goes a little overboard when people recommend that you HAVE to leave it on ALL the time. It's not like a motorcycle helmet. A motorcycle helmet is something you really absolutely should use every time you ride. VDC and TCS are not.

Things like TCS have not been around very long. Heck, my first two cars did not even have ABS, and my first car was a 1990! I did not have traction control until my last car, which was a 2002.

The only reason the feature is becoming standard is because of marketing requirements. It's the same reason that a $5000 Kia comes with ABS, power seats, locks, windows, etc... the demand requires it because if you're the last manufacturer with a base model without these features as standard then you're just building rental cars. Same goes for Traction Control. In 10 years, a base Kia Rio will likely have traction control, dynamic braking, yaw control, and an ***-whiper all as standard features.

TCS and VDC type systems are NOT offered because the car's spec requires that it be there. The Z is not inherently unstable or anything like that. It's not a Stealth Fighter which needs a computer fly-by-wire system to keep it aloft. As some folks have proven you can strip out every piece of body control electronics in the car and it'll drive just fine.

I'm not admonishing folks for cautioning other people about the potential hazards of disabling traction control systems. That is a good thing. But it's a sad thing too, because it means that people are such bad drivers now that we anticipate that these safety nets MUST be used, lest an individual be left to their own choices, reactions, and experience.

I say keep all the magic boxes off as much as possible when you first buy the car. If you can't keep it straight then it's too much car for you (and this goes for any car). No amount of traction control will help you anyway in that case. A lack of skill, awareness, and experience will eventually catch up to you no matter how much KITT intervenes.

Because at the end of the day, the sad truth is that the ones who would need it the most are the first ones to turn it off (this excludes those with mods which preclude the use of the VDC anyway).

Ok... sorry about all that. I just want to remind people that everyone is supposed to know how to drive without all the gizmos anyway. So it shouldn't be too big a deal if someone does disable the system. If they disable a safety system and then get into an incident, I call that Darwin at work. Let it run on long enough and in the end we'll be left with only good drivers on the road.


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