Evo or 350Z
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IMO they are two different cars.
Evo: faster, although I personally think they look sweet, to a person who doesnt know much about cars, the evo looks ricey although ANYONE will think a Z is hot ****. Z is just a classy ride, its not as fast as the Evo, but its fast, stylish, and if you ever want, you can put some $$$ into it to make it faster than you'll need. I honestly think tho, that you'll be happier with either the Z and the Evo are my two fav cars, but the image of those two cars are different.
Evo: faster, although I personally think they look sweet, to a person who doesnt know much about cars, the evo looks ricey although ANYONE will think a Z is hot ****. Z is just a classy ride, its not as fast as the Evo, but its fast, stylish, and if you ever want, you can put some $$$ into it to make it faster than you'll need. I honestly think tho, that you'll be happier with either the Z and the Evo are my two fav cars, but the image of those two cars are different.
I think the Z will over power the evo in the long run. Yes if you want a quarter mile beast with little money and good gas milage Evo would be the best choice.
Now if you want a car that will look good and with a good bank account turns into a beast the Z is for you.
Me personally i like the evo's but no way in hell an evo even comes near to the Z in looks. I always have wanted a fast rwd 2 door sports car and i think with the z im getting their already. Make your pic any route you go will be a good choice depending on what need you have.
Now if you want a car that will look good and with a good bank account turns into a beast the Z is for you.
Me personally i like the evo's but no way in hell an evo even comes near to the Z in looks. I always have wanted a fast rwd 2 door sports car and i think with the z im getting their already. Make your pic any route you go will be a good choice depending on what need you have.
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Originally Posted by buho62
Get a toyota corolla, they are cheaper and save gas too!
Thank you everyone for the help!
P.S. Sorry if i didnt make much sense im damn tired!
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First, consider if you're gonna have more than 1 person riding with you. Second, if you gonna be driving in snow. AWD does come in handy when heading up the mountains if you are a snowboarder or skier. If you have never driven a turbo, I'll say try it before you buy. Some will get hooked on the push a turbo gives. Then consider how long you plan to keep this car. My impression with Mitsu cars, especially turbos, is that they don't last too long. Whereas the NAs are more lasting.
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Evo is all about being faster in an unrefined way. Very fun car.
Z is more refined and has better feedback when driving. Everything from steering feel to brake feel to throttle response is better. Shifter feels better. Clutch feels better. The low end torque is much better and no turbo lag (unless you ...um... add turbos). The Z is more about the pleasure of driving. Also a very fun car.
This debate always reminds me of someone's analogy between a slutty stripper (Evo) versus a refined, elegant, and beautiful woman. (Z)
A few weeks ago I test drove the Evo and confirmed that the Z was the right car for me. I won't lie and say that the Evo wasn't awesome to drive though.
Z is more refined and has better feedback when driving. Everything from steering feel to brake feel to throttle response is better. Shifter feels better. Clutch feels better. The low end torque is much better and no turbo lag (unless you ...um... add turbos). The Z is more about the pleasure of driving. Also a very fun car.
This debate always reminds me of someone's analogy between a slutty stripper (Evo) versus a refined, elegant, and beautiful woman. (Z)
A few weeks ago I test drove the Evo and confirmed that the Z was the right car for me. I won't lie and say that the Evo wasn't awesome to drive though.
The EVO steering is FAR superior the the Z's.... I've driven both. The brakes are also better in the EVO, and much better feel to them (Not as on/off as the Z's). The EVO is a far better "please of driving" car. Much more performance based than the Z, and much funner to drive due to the suspension/steering, and turbo power.
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Originally Posted by 350Z007
I have owned both. I'm coming from an 04 Evo VIII. I had pretty much every bolt on mod and some. I also had the leather and sunroof package. the leather recaros are definately nice seats. It was most definitely fast, but if your coming from an e36 M3 you won't be happy with the feel and finish. You can tell that your driving a high horsepower sedan.
There's nothing that beats that rwd two seater feeling. My Evo was ***** out fast, but it definately wasn't as fun to drive as the Z is overall. The Z definitely looks better too. They are two different class cars as well. If you want every ricer boy on the street oogling your car buy an Evo.
If you want every fine lady on the street doing the same buy a Z.
If I could have afforded it I would have kept the Evo as a track car as many of my friends have, but as a daily driver the Z hands down.
There's nothing that beats that rwd two seater feeling. My Evo was ***** out fast, but it definately wasn't as fun to drive as the Z is overall. The Z definitely looks better too. They are two different class cars as well. If you want every ricer boy on the street oogling your car buy an Evo.
If you want every fine lady on the street doing the same buy a Z.
If I could have afforded it I would have kept the Evo as a track car as many of my friends have, but as a daily driver the Z hands down.
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Originally Posted by Geovannie
Ask yourself what you are buying the car for. If it is just for a nice sports daily driver get the 350z. It is a MUCH nicer car in everyway. However if you bought your car to mod the hell out of it and go fast etc. Get the evo. It is a lot better bang for your buck and you will go much quicker much easier.
I went from a E36 M3 to a 350z too. I could not be happier
However I'm around evos and supras all day at work so I know what they can do.
I went from a E36 M3 to a 350z too. I could not be happier
However I'm around evos and supras all day at work so I know what they can do.The EVO is faster, better handling, better braking, better steering, better suspension. The Z's interior DESIGN is better, however the materials used are just as crappy as the EVO's.
The EVO has more space, 4 seats, a trunk (instead of nearly nothing), AWD (better in rain/snow), and is turbo (easier to mod).
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Originally Posted by slickb0i
In all honesty, I believe that you should go for a Z. I say this because, coming from such an mature, and expensive car(m3), I cant see you going into a four door vehicle with air dams the sizes of that on a fighter jet. Moreover, the looks you got from you m3 wont be the same. Instead you'll have a majority of the looks coming from younger individuals. Whereas, the Z will bring the same that you m3 brought. Because in my opinon, the Z presents a bold, and mature look and makes a statement everytime it passes me, similar to how a BMW does.
But in end, it is you money that is being spent. And it is being spent for your content so you should pick either one that is more appleasing.
But in end, it is you money that is being spent. And it is being spent for your content so you should pick either one that is more appleasing.
Yea, let's all buy whatever car gets better looks from people.... what great logic.
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Originally Posted by Fairlady_z33
I think the Z will over power the evo in the long run. Yes if you want a quarter mile beast with little money and good gas milage Evo would be the best choice.
Now if you want a car that will look good and with a good bank account turns into a beast the Z is for you.
Me personally i like the evo's but no way in hell an evo even comes near to the Z in looks. I always have wanted a fast rwd 2 door sports car and i think with the z im getting their already. Make your pic any route you go will be a good choice depending on what need you have.
Now if you want a car that will look good and with a good bank account turns into a beast the Z is for you.
Me personally i like the evo's but no way in hell an evo even comes near to the Z in looks. I always have wanted a fast rwd 2 door sports car and i think with the z im getting their already. Make your pic any route you go will be a good choice depending on what need you have.
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Originally Posted by dye
Hahaha, my dad used to say that when i got my first car. Let me start by saying, thanks everyone for all the opinions and suggestions. Looks are definately important, an in a M3 i dont get much from the younger crowd wich is good because i dont want all those street racer 16 an 17 year old kids eyeballing my car trying to race me at every light. Interior is important to me but I like the interior of the Evo, the seats are very nice and its simple but the M3 is a better interior IMO. The interior of the Z is very nice and i like it a lot. I like the looks of the Evo until you get to the spoiler and giant air dam, It just makes me feel like im getting ready to act in a fast an furious movie. The Z is more of a better looking car all around IMO. I probably wont be doing many mods to the next car i get. I love the feeling of bieng in a 2 door RWD drive car. but please keep the suggestions coming
Thank you everyone for the help!
P.S. Sorry if i didnt make much sense im damn tired!
Thank you everyone for the help!
P.S. Sorry if i didnt make much sense im damn tired!
The EVO is definitely not the car for you from what you said above.
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Get the Z. Obviously you care how the world views you and your vehicle. Get what the world tells you to by what gets looks from the right people. The Z.
The EVO is definitely not the car for you from what you said above.
The EVO is definitely not the car for you from what you said above.
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Yea, let's all buy whatever car gets better looks from people.... what great logic.
Pete (would appreciate it if indiviuals would act their age; not their shoe size)
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Originally Posted by slickb0i
Yea pal, Im just posting one of many cons of going from a bimmer to a damn Mitsu. And remeber its just my opinion, spare me the sarcasm.
Pete (would appreciate it if indiviuals would act their age; not their shoe size)
Pete (would appreciate it if indiviuals would act their age; not their shoe size)
I could break down the pro's and con's.
EVO PRO's
Steering
Braking
Acceleration
Handling (in all weather conditions)
Space
Trunk
launching
Suspension
"Moddability"
Probably MPG (if you don't boost, it can be pretty good)
Better resale value
CONS
Stiff suspension
Extremely quick steering may get annoying for long trips
Lancer shell
Maintenance will likely cost more
Weak clutch for most drivers
Turn radius
Pretty crappy interior
Drivetrain power loss higher than RWD cars... not a big con since the evo IX can get 350whp for less then 1.5k
350Z PROS
Weight distr.
More Displacement
Much better low-end tq
Smoother ride
Cruise Control
Better interior design (not materials)
Stronger clutch (for most drivers)
Not as expensive to own
350Z CONS
Space
Trunk
Tire wear
Not good in bad weather
For as small as it is, it is not lighter
Performance not as good as the EVO
Crap interior materials. Not necessarily a con when compared to the EVO, but they are not very good.
I could list more, but thats all i could think of off of the top of my head. Honestly if ALL YOUR LOOKING for is the more fun of the two to drive, than the EVO wins hands down.
Test drive both. That way you don't have to listen to jerks like me rant.
Originally Posted by Hypnoz
What do you mean unrefined?
The EVO steering is FAR superior the the Z's.... I've driven both. The brakes are also better in the EVO, and much better feel to them (Not as on/off as the Z's). The EVO is a far better "please of driving" car. Much more performance based than the Z, and much funner to drive due to the suspension/steering, and turbo power.
The EVO steering is FAR superior the the Z's.... I've driven both. The brakes are also better in the EVO, and much better feel to them (Not as on/off as the Z's). The EVO is a far better "please of driving" car. Much more performance based than the Z, and much funner to drive due to the suspension/steering, and turbo power.
Prove that the Evo brakes are "Better." Have numbers? Didn't think so.
The stock Z brakes bite very hard for street driving (on/off behavior) but they can be made more linear by changing the pads. I've now gone through hawk HPS on OEM rotors and I'm currently on axxis ultimates with the stoptech rotors / SS lines. I can tell you that the brakes are very linear NOW. Pads have more to do with braking feel than anything. So if you like the OEM Evo brakes better, that's great. But if you change them out, it may not feel the same.
"Pleasure of driving" ?? Give me a break. You take off from a stoplight, feel like you're driving a civic. Then all of a sudden at 3k rpm, 280 horses kick you in the *** and you're flying. That is the Evo. That is not "pleasure of driving", but it is "High Performance".
The Z... flat torque band from 2k rpm to redline. This gives you better throttle response due to its torquey nature and makes it much more fun as a daily driver. I would not want to worry about keeping the RPMs up to make driving pleasurable on city streets. I do not want to have to rev to 3k and dump the clutch to get a good start. With the Z I do not have to... with 285 tires out back I can still get great acceleration off the line with low RPM, and that is what makes the Z a great daily driver. Always having torque of a V6 at your disposal is a nice thing to have. The evo throttle is jumpy and touchy. But it is still amazingly fast and it does kick some ***.
If you don't know what I'm talking about when I say "unrefined" then let's put it this way:
The Evo is a $35k porsche killer. But the porsche is more refined.
Same with the Z. The Z is simply more refined, although the evo can easily outperform it in most circumstances. The evo is made for rally, whereas Z is RWD and made for the track. In fact, having RWD on the track is often an advantage over AWD.
The Z is very much overbuilt in many areas. Amazing chassis, drivetrain, engine, differential. The Z's clutch is pretty amazing as long as you stay N/A. Even the wheel wells are huge to accomodate much wider tires than an Evo. The Evo has an amazing engine, but that's about it. Their blocks are doing some amazing things that the Z can't touch. But nevertheless, the Z was not built for F/I. If it was built for F/I, it would have stronger internals etc., and would be able to pretty much kick the Evo's *** in every department.
Hope this helps. You are obviously an Evo fanboi, whereas I am a Z fanboy. Please accept my opinion as respecfully biased toward the Z, but not unaware of the Evo's amazing-ness.
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