Evo or 350Z
02-22-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Hypnoz- Examples you seemed to ignore of my praises for the Evo:
Yet you read only the negatives. I gave a very fair but biased opinion, whereas you just defend the negatives and whine, whine, whine.
Yet you read only the negatives. I gave a very fair but biased opinion, whereas you just defend the negatives and whine, whine, whine.
I really like how you think I'm "whining" when I defend the EVO from false statements and half-truths.
02-22-2006, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
You know the #1 reason the Evo outperforms the Z in almost every department? It is because the Z was designed around keeping it affordable. A $30k sports car that the masses could afford. Guess what, the 350Z was Nissan's best move ever and their current vehicle lineup got them WAY ahead in the automobile market. If the factory had an additional $10k invested, we would've had factory Twin Turbos like the 300ZX. But they did not intend to put out a $40k car, no, they intended to put out a $30k car.
P.S. Have you driven a Porsche 911? FYI, the feel is very similar to the Z. I think you still confuse handling and road feel.
P.S. Have you driven a Porsche 911? FYI, the feel is very similar to the Z. I think you still confuse handling and road feel.
02-22-2006, 09:37 AM
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Hypnoz, you aren't that great at actually reading what people write
You mostly only read the negatives and respond to them. I'm not attacking the Evo, doofus!
You mostly only read the negatives and respond to them. I'm not attacking the Evo, doofus!
In every one of my posts I talk about how great the Evo is.
Then I subjectively tell my opinion of the Z. "BETTER FEEDBACK" Is a subjective opinion. So stop telling me that this is "simply not true."
Then I subjectively tell my opinion of the Z. "BETTER FEEDBACK" Is a subjective opinion. So stop telling me that this is "simply not true."
Oh yeah, get off your high horse! I mentioned multiple times how the Evo can outperform the Z, yet you seem to have to jump in and "defend" against my attacks nonetheless! Get over it man!
More proof you misread my posts: I never owned an Evo. You assumed I did. I have spent a lot of time driving an evo around and being a passenger as well. I test drove a lancer before and my girlfriend drives a civic, so I drive a civic almost daily when she's around.
OF course the Evo is more practical. The Z is a sports car, the Evo is a rally sedan. What would you expect?
Yes, I'm talking about everyday normal launch. Of course the Evo can win a drag race. When you are daily driving, you want to launch at a very low RPM so you're not being hard on the clutch/tranny. With the Evo, you get "lancer-mode" at first then you get kicked in the ***. This turbo lag makes for a jerky daily driving experience. With the Z you get a nice flat torque band. MUCH BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR DAILY DRIVING, especially in traffic. If you dispute this, you are either saying that "turbo lag = Driving pleasure" or you just keep the rpms over 3k all the time, in which case you're not really taking it easy on the clutch or tranny...
02-22-2006, 09:38 AM
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I'm not sure where you get this better brake feel.
The brembo's on my Evo felt almost exactly like the brembo's on my Z.
You must have some magically sensitive foot.
The brembo's on my Evo felt almost exactly like the brembo's on my Z.
You must have some magically sensitive foot.
02-22-2006, 09:40 AM
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I completely agree with what you said in the above quote. There, happy? I have not driven a 99' Porsche 911. I've driven the EVO and the Z, and road feel on the EVO is more pronounced, and the EVO is more responsive due to quicker steering (not VARIABLE like the Z's), better brake feel, and stiffer ride.
what do you drive?
02-22-2006, 09:41 AM
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i dont understand how you feel that the evo has all these things better than the Z. ive raced evos... always on the highway though since thats where i always find em. Never lost to one... and performance mods...? im under 1000 dollars and i honestly doubt ull find a evo under 1000 dollars that will beat me straight away. my friend with an evo also has driven my car and he said with his own mouth that my car feels more stable around corners and much easier to deal with if anything goes wrong, unlike the evo where whenever he loses control he feels like the car is just going to go into a wall. like I Said, evo or 350z its all personal decision. i feel the performance is very similiar if the 0-60 launch on the evo is taken out. and absolutely nothing ive said on this thread is false.... PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I WAS (quoting you) "mislead people into thinking false things". YOU DONT OWN EITHER CARRRR SO STFU UR MISLEADING WITH YOU STUPID FORUM READING AND MAGAZINE RACING.
02-22-2006, 09:48 AM
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does f5 reload the page for you? i was like wtf is f5? haha he responds so fast im lookin on this thread every 5 minutes to see what kinda crap he reads up on to post on this thread.
02-22-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bhk1004
does f5 reload the page for you? i was like wtf is f5? haha he responds so fast im lookin on this thread every 5 minutes to see what kinda crap he reads up on to post on this thread.
Yes, you can upgrade the turbo on Evo's, but for a good quality turbo upgrade it's going to cost you around 5K and you can turbo a Z for almost the same amount.
Then he goes on to talk about 500 whp well if you are going to push that kind of hp out of an Evo you better have a built tranny and engine internal. This goes for the Z as well. If you push that much HP out of a car your going to either break something or need to build it. Personally I'd rather have a 500whp Z.
02-22-2006, 09:56 AM
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lol....hypnoz is something else.
Yes, you can upgrade the turbo on Evo's, but for a good quality turbo upgrade it's going to cost you around 5K and you can turbo a Z or almost the same amount.
Then he goes on to talk about 500 whp well if you are going to push that kind of hp out of an Evo you better have a built tranny and engine internal. This goes for the Z as well. If you push that much HP out of a car your going to either break something or need to build it. Personally I'd rather have a 500whp Z.
Yes, you can upgrade the turbo on Evo's, but for a good quality turbo upgrade it's going to cost you around 5K and you can turbo a Z or almost the same amount.
Then he goes on to talk about 500 whp well if you are going to push that kind of hp out of an Evo you better have a built tranny and engine internal. This goes for the Z as well. If you push that much HP out of a car your going to either break something or need to build it. Personally I'd rather have a 500whp Z.
Also, I wouldn't personally want to own the Z that only has 5k invested into going F/I.
Ninja edit: Hmm...hypnoz all of a sudden takes 20+ mins to respond when someone asks him what he drives... hmm...
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02-22-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Z007
lol....hypnoz is something else.
Yes, you can upgrade the turbo on Evo's, but for a good quality turbo upgrade it's going to cost you around 5K and you can turbo a Z for almost the same amount.
Then he goes on to talk about 500 whp well if you are going to push that kind of hp out of an Evo you better have a built tranny and engine internal. This goes for the Z as well. If you push that much HP out of a car your going to either break something or need to build it. Personally I'd rather have a 500whp Z.
Yes, you can upgrade the turbo on Evo's, but for a good quality turbo upgrade it's going to cost you around 5K and you can turbo a Z for almost the same amount.
Then he goes on to talk about 500 whp well if you are going to push that kind of hp out of an Evo you better have a built tranny and engine internal. This goes for the Z as well. If you push that much HP out of a car your going to either break something or need to build it. Personally I'd rather have a 500whp Z.
tranny does not need to be built at those power levels unless you drag race.
02-22-2006, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Also, I wouldn't personally want to own the Z that only has 5k invested into going F/I.
I wouldn't want to own a Z that only has 5k into F/I either I was stating that you can get a F/I kit for around 5K for the Z as well as for the evo. Doesn't include install, etc.
02-22-2006, 10:03 AM
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The thing I don't get about Hypnoz is that initially he was arguing about "what do I mean unrefined" ?
I mean, the Z can outperform a BMW 330ci, but is the Z more refined than the 330ci? Hells no!
He seems to think the cars are in the same class, and they just aren't.
I mean, the Z can outperform a BMW 330ci, but is the Z more refined than the 330ci? Hells no!
He seems to think the cars are in the same class, and they just aren't.
02-22-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PoWeRtRiP
thats not true. a mild turbo upgrade for an evo runs ~2000-2500. a big (gt35r) is ~3500.
tranny does not need to be built at those power levels unless you drag race.
tranny does not need to be built at those power levels unless you drag race.
02-22-2006, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
The thing I don't get about Hypnoz is that initially he was arguing about "what do I mean unrefined" ?
I mean, the Z can outperform a BMW 330ci, but is the Z more refined than the 330ci? Hells no!
He seems to think the cars are in the same class, and they just aren't.
I mean, the Z can outperform a BMW 330ci, but is the Z more refined than the 330ci? Hells no!
He seems to think the cars are in the same class, and they just aren't.
02-22-2006, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Z007
Maybe using the stock exhaust manifold. All the kits I've looked at that replace the manifold run $4-6k.
2 t03-t04 hybrids .63 a/r and .82 a/r 3700
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...dbe6a9e2134d78
gt35r turbo kit 3000
please dont post up false information. this took me 30 secs to find.
02-22-2006, 10:10 AM
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Read his posts. He thinks the srt is faster than the z. I don't think he has ever driven the z. He's also another one of those who likes to say "the z doesn't feel fast, what's up", then goes on about how the accord feels faster. Well, go and be an ignorant moron and buy the accord.
02-22-2006, 10:12 AM
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Read his posts. He thinks the srt is faster than the z. I don't think he has ever driven the z. He's also another one of those who likes to say "the z doesn't feel fast, what's up", then goes on about how the accord feels faster. Well, go and be an ignorant moron and buy the accord.
I remember that post.I'm awaiting to see what he drives before leaving this armpit of a thread
02-22-2006, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PoWeRtRiP
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...rbo&prodid=615
2 t03-t04 hybrids .63 a/r and .82 a/r 3700
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...dbe6a9e2134d78
gt35r turbo kit 3000
please dont post up false information. this took me 30 secs to find.
2 t03-t04 hybrids .63 a/r and .82 a/r 3700
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...dbe6a9e2134d78
gt35r turbo kit 3000
please dont post up false information. this took me 30 secs to find.