The basics: Starting and stopping
Originally Posted by roast
Technically speaking, bill is 100% correct. A disengaged clutch is one that isn't connecting the engine to the transmission because it's disengaged(clutch in). Most people don't know what they're talking about though, I agree, but IMO that's no justification or excuse to think of it ***-backwards. 
1:yes
2:yes, unless on a hill, then I put it in 1st or R depending on which way I'm facing
1:yes
2:yes, unless on a hill, then I put it in 1st or R depending on which way I'm facing
So I'm assuming what the original poster meant by, "Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual," is what you meant, roast and Bill? That you should start the car in neutral while your foot is OFF the clutch, correct?
Originally Posted by kcobean
Damnit roast, just when I thought I was right about something you come along with the wiki and beat me down...Alright, I concede.
And yeah, ack-basswards is perfect.
And yeah, ack-basswards is perfect.
While in one definition of the word, it could very well be considered that you are in fact "engaging" the clutch pedal (a more accurate and less confusing word would be "depressing"), but while depressing the pedal you are disengaging the clutch. That's where the confusion arises.
"Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual," is what you meant, roast and Bill? That you should start the car in neutral while your foot is OFF the clutch, correct?
The shifter should be in neutral with the clutch pedal depressed(clutch fully disengaged). The starter will not crank the engine unless the clutch pedal is depressed.
Last edited by roast; Jun 16, 2006 at 03:41 PM.
My Z is not a manual but wiht every ohter manual car
1. Yes
2. Put it in neutral before shutting off engine unless I'm on a steep in/decline. In that case, I used to put it in 1st/R after shutting off the engine.
Danny
1. Yes
2. Put it in neutral before shutting off engine unless I'm on a steep in/decline. In that case, I used to put it in 1st/R after shutting off the engine.
Danny
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Parking on a hill incline I come to a stop, drop it into 1st or R, and then trn off while the clutch is still disengaged. Once the engine completely stops moving I remove my foot from the clutch and brake.
Okay Kc and Roast, go talk about opening and closing a circuit jumper now... 
I park in neutral except on an incline. So, clutch in (aha ) to start. Oh, but I wiggle the shifter before releasing the clutch (double aha ) just to be sure...
I'll unload the trany if I park on an incline.
And I often mix up R and D when I drive the Titan in the morning. So don't park to close to me bumpers...
I park in neutral except on an incline. So, clutch in (aha
) to start. Oh, but I wiggle the shifter before releasing the clutch (double aha ) just to be sure...I'll unload the trany if I park on an incline.
And I often mix up R and D when I drive the Titan in the morning. So don't park to close to me bumpers...
Originally Posted by lobotomy
How many here actually wait a full thirty seconds before driving after starting the car? 
Get in, start the engine, buckle up, set the HVAC and the radio and go. About 30 seconds...
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The job of the clutch is is to connect the engine to the tranny so that engine torque can be applied to the input shaft of the tranny. It is essentially 2 opposing plates, driving (input) side (engine) and a driven (output) side (tranny.
To apply power from the engine to the tranny, the clutch must be engaged (2 halves connected). In order to disconnect the engine from the tranny, it is necessary to disengage the clutch.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm
bill
To apply power from the engine to the tranny, the clutch must be engaged (2 halves connected). In order to disconnect the engine from the tranny, it is necessary to disengage the clutch.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm
bill
Originally Posted by bailey bill
The job of the clutch is is to connect the engine to the tranny so that engine torque can be applied to the input shaft of the tranny. It is essentially 2 opposing plates, driving (input) side (engine) and a driven (output) side (tranny.
To apply power from the engine to the tranny, the clutch must be engaged (2 halves connected). In order to disconnect the engine from the tranny, it is necessary to disengage the clutch.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm
bill
To apply power from the engine to the tranny, the clutch must be engaged (2 halves connected). In order to disconnect the engine from the tranny, it is necessary to disengage the clutch.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm
bill
Originally Posted by kcobean
Technically, the job of the clutch is to allow the driver to disengage the tranny from the engine. Therefore, when you push the pedal in, you are engaging the clutch to do it's job. (It's purely scemantics and I'm not trying to argue, it's just that you'll find most people referencing pushing the clutch pedal as 'engaging', not 'disengaging'.
And I usually set my p-brake with the car in neutral, take my foot off the brake, then let disengage the clutch. That way, there is no load on the tranny.
And I usually set my p-brake with the car in neutral, take my foot off the brake, then let disengage the clutch. That way, there is no load on the tranny.
The only reason they say to start the car in neutral is in case you were to get air in the clutch line, or lose fluid overnight or something. We you got in the car the next day and pushed it to the floor the switch would trigger but not pressing the clutch. Bad news.
Bad habit I guess but I never pull it into neutral, clutch brake start. What could 300hp do anyway
LOL
Bad habit I guess but I never pull it into neutral, clutch brake start. What could 300hp do anyway
LOL
Whenever I park any car with a standard I always put it in reverse (unless I am parking uphill then I put it in first). I think on most cars its a lower gear ratio than first and the Z actually recommends it... I am pretty sure I am the only person in the world who does this since everyone thinks I am crazy when they see me do it.
Originally Posted by lobotomy
How many here actually wait a full thirty seconds before driving after starting the car?
Nope and Nope...
I normally start the car with the clutch engaged and the car in 1st gear
becauseee...
I park the car and leave the car in 1st gear, no e-brake unless on a hill. This way, I don't take the chance of forgetting the ebrake is on and driving like I've done at least once with each car I've owned.
For the record, I broke 70,000 miles on my Z this weekend and have had no problem with this ignition on/ignition off method.
I normally start the car with the clutch engaged and the car in 1st gear
becauseee...
I park the car and leave the car in 1st gear, no e-brake unless on a hill. This way, I don't take the chance of forgetting the ebrake is on and driving like I've done at least once with each car I've owned.
For the record, I broke 70,000 miles on my Z this weekend and have had no problem with this ignition on/ignition off method.
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