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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual.

Also, after stopping the engine and applying the parking brake how many engage the clutch briefly to take any tension off the transmission......particularly when parking on unlevel surfaces.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual.

Nope

Also, after stopping the engine and applying the parking brake how many engage the clutch briefly to take any tension off the transmission......particularly when parking on unlevel surfaces.

Never heard of that one either.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HCJOE
Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual.

Also, after stopping the engine and applying the parking brake how many engage the clutch briefly to take any tension off the transmission......particularly when parking on unlevel surfaces.
1. Yes, always.

2. Nope, never heard
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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I dont think that my parking brake is strong enough to hold the car on a hill by itself...I have to leave it in gear...so not only do I not do #2 (that sounds funny...lol) I purposely do the opposite, and have with all of the manual transmission cars that I have had.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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1. yes

2. most times no
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by HCJOE
Wondering how many members start their 6MT with the transmission in nuetral and the clutch fully engaged.......as reccommended in the owners manual.

Also, after stopping the engine and applying the parking brake how many engage the clutch briefly to take any tension off the transmission......particularly when parking on unlevel surfaces.
I do both, and in regards to the second, I use the emergency brake to hold the car and then I depress the clutch and put it in 1st gear as extra insurance.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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yes, yes if im on a hill. otherwise i'm in neutral.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Yes
Yes.......but if on a hill I leave it in gear as a back up.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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#2: I park in neutral w/ parking brake (exception of steep hills, then I leave tranny in reverse).
#1, because I park in neutral, it's still in neutral when I start it
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Hmm, I never knew #1, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this? Also the reasoning behind starting it in neutral *and* with the clutch fully engaged? (I usually start with clutch engaged and in 1st gear.)

#2: Yup, all the time even on level surfaces. It takes the weight off the transmission and puts it on the ebrake.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by highside107
Hmm, I never knew #1, can someone explain the logic/reasoning behind this? Also the reasoning behind starting it in neutral *and* with the clutch fully engaged? (I usually start with clutch engaged and in 1st gear.)

#2: Yup, all the time even on level surfaces. It takes the weight off the transmission and puts it on the ebrake.
I appreciate your understanding of taking any tension off the transmission when parking........

As for as starting with clutch engaged and transmission in nuetral......nothing is turning, i.e. throwout bearing and possible gear or sync movement in the transmission.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Just to clarify some termonology...

When you step on the clutch pedal, it disengages the clutch.

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Originally Posted by bailey bill
Just to clarify some termonology...

When you step on the clutch pedal, it disengages the clutch.

bill
Technically, the job of the clutch is to allow the driver to disengage the tranny from the engine. Therefore, when you push the pedal in, you are engaging the clutch to do it's job. (It's purely scemantics and I'm not trying to argue, it's just that you'll find most people referencing pushing the clutch pedal as 'engaging', not 'disengaging'.

And I usually set my p-brake with the car in neutral, take my foot off the brake, then let disengage the clutch. That way, there is no load on the tranny.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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I always push the clutch in to start the car. Is it even possible to start the car without pushing the clutch in?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Technically, the job of the clutch is to allow the driver to disengage the tranny from the engine. Therefore, when you push the pedal in, you are engaging the clutch to do it's job. (It's purely scemantics and I'm not trying to argue, it's just that you'll find most people referencing pushing the clutch pedal as 'engaging', not 'disengaging'.
Technically speaking, bill is 100% correct. A disengaged clutch is one that isn't connecting the engine to the transmission because it's disengaged(clutch in). Most people don't know what they're talking about though, I agree, but IMO that's no justification or excuse to think of it ***-backwards.

1:yes
2:yes, unless on a hill, then I put it in 1st or R depending on which way I'm facing

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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by roast
Technically speaking, bill is 100% correct. A disengaged clutch is one that isn't connecting the engine to the transmission because it's disengaged(clutch in). Most people don't know what they're talking about though, I agree, but IMO that's no justification or excuse to think of it ***-backwards.
Tomato...Tomaaaaato. I still say I had it right.

And it's bass-ackwards, don't ya know.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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lol how about ack-basswards

I still say me and bill are right. It's pretty basic auto terminology.

quoted from wikipedia.org:
A clutch is a mechanism for transmitting rotation, which can be engaged and disengaged.

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No pressure on the pedal means that the clutch plates are engaged (driving), while depressing the pedal will disengage the clutch plates, allowing the driver to shift gears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutch
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by roast
lol how about ack-basswards

I still say me and bill are right. It's pretty basic auto terminology.

quoted from wikipedia.org:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutch
Damnit roast, just when I thought I was right about something you come along with the wiki and beat me down...Alright, I concede.

And yeah, ack-basswards is perfect.
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